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Canadians consider certain religions damaging to society: survey

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Re: Canadians consider certain religions damaging to society: survey

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Would they? What's that god they killed for?

I think the point was trying to make is that having a god is ultimately irrelevant to being an evil murderer

No one claimed atheists cannot be murderers. But I have yet to learn of an atheist starting a crusade in the name of that god they don't believe in.

Re: Canadians consider certain religions damaging to society: survey

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Please consider belief in $GOD as different from $RELIGION. Consider one the theory and the other the implementation, and the latter seems to cause way more difficulties, particularly with respect to the hardware.

> Please consider belief in $GOD as ... Hmm ... isn't God a value, not a variable?

God is an X.

https://lukeplant.me.uk/blog/posts/everything-is-an-x-patter...

Re: Canadians consider certain religions damaging to society: survey

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tl;dr: two thirds of Canadians report believing in a higher power in some way. If you slice the data in enough ways you'll find a few that will make headlines like this.

I was about to snark that this was done by a polling firm who works for political parties whose main opposition are also faith based, but as a finding to say 2/3 of people can be appealed to based on their faith in something, that's an important and valuable number.

The people who believe nothing are indeed in a minority, and they are also in power, so the tone of the article was likely to make believers of any faith feel isolated instead of reminding them that they are a majority.

Re: Canadians consider certain religions damaging to society: survey

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Unfortunately, that's true in both the positive and negative sense, as atheists have no $GOD to kill for.

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But did they do these things because they were atheist? In the name of atheist philosophy? No. There's no causal link there.

Contrast with say ISIS, where they do their evil because of (their interpretation of) their religion.

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Mao and Stalin might disagree.

Would they? What's that god they killed for?

Nationalist socialist ideology.

It held itself up as the "true" alternative to Christian religion in particular. No need for a God - we can do it all ourselves. Perhaps because it saw Christians who were loyal first to God and then to the state as a threat to its plans for totalitarianism.

Re: Canadians consider certain religions damaging to society: survey

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There's lots of interesting nuance in the actual survey report: https://angusreid.org/canada-religion-interfaith-holy-week/ Edit: Towards the bottom of the report is a matrix showing how the various religious groups feel about each other (net positive/negative). Some takeaways: * Jews and Hindus are the only groups that think positively about all the others * Catholics and Evangelicals are negative on the Jews * Evan…

That table is interesting. The gulf between jewish view of evangelicals (+35) to evangelicals view of jews (-45) is interesting, but there are other situations similar like protestants like evangelicals (+55) while evangelicals are a little cooler to protestants (-10). edit: it seems someone is saying the columns and rows are reversed from how I read it. I don't see where that's indicated, although that makes sense i…

Jews for Jesus was started in the 70s and maintains a $25M a year tax-free income through donations from Baptist and Evangelical sources. They make their rounds through the various churches every few years asking for money, and so Evangelicals have frowned upon the idea that the Jews have their own covenant with God. The Vatican, on the other hand, has stated in the past that Judaism and Christianity have incompatible beliefs and thus Catholics should not try to convert Jews.
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