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Canadians consider certain religions damaging to society: survey

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Re: Canadians consider certain religions damaging to society: survey

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There's lots of interesting nuance in the actual survey report: https://angusreid.org/canada-religion-interfaith-holy-week/ Edit: Towards the bottom of the report is a matrix showing how the various religious groups feel about each other (net positive/negative). Some takeaways: * Jews and Hindus are the only groups that think positively about all the others * Catholics and Evangelicals are negative on the Jews * Evan…

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Re: Canadians consider certain religions damaging to society: survey

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As a Canadian who spends a considerable amount of time travelling to the US, the difference is fairly striking. Religion enters almost every conversation I have in the US in some way. Whereas in Canada, religion almost never comes up. If it does, it's generally a discussion on the merits where I'm talking more about history and culture. It's fascinating how two places, so geographically close can be so culturally dif…

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Re: Canadians consider certain religions damaging to society: survey

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The differences between those 'last few prophets' are major. You could say the same thing about Mormonism. Further, Jews, Muslims, and Christians are not monoliths in and of themselves. There are vast divides within those groups. I do wish we would all get along better though. Despite the differences between the various Abrahamic faiths, we have far similar values with each other than with atheists.

Unfortunately, that's true in both the positive and negative sense, as atheists have no $GOD to kill for.

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Re: Canadians consider certain religions damaging to society: survey

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Yep! Now, I've primarily been travelling to Texas, Kentucky and Ohio. But things like most people mention bible study, it's assumed you're going to church on Sunday, more religious aphorisms and sayings. Primarily, most of my interactions with clients are on a blue collar level, although an affluent blue collar level. Not sure if that changes the circle a number of HN readers might be in? I also might notice it more…

I mean -- you've been in three of the most religious states in the U.S., and you're interacting w blue collar workers. There is a fairly tremendous sampling bias. But I agree that very religious Americans do manage to work their religion into conversations in which you just wouldn't think it would come up.

I mean, 30-35% of the country is still evangelical and evangelicals love talking about religion. You could randomly choose a state and the GP's experience is probably true. Texas, Kentucky, and Ohio... but in my experience Arkansas and parts of Tennessee, Alabama, and Georgia are actually more religious than those three. Admittedly, a lot of my travel has been through rural areas -- but still, 30-35%!

In Boston I could go half a decade without a stranger bringing up religion unprompted. But in Arkansas, nearly every conversation was loosely tied to religion. And it was in my best interest to pretend I was still Pentecostal to get by.

Re: Canadians consider certain religions damaging to society: survey

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Please consider belief in $GOD as different from $RELIGION. Consider one the theory and the other the implementation, and the latter seems to cause way more difficulties, particularly with respect to the hardware.

The theory of $GOD is based on a whim, feeling, and the use of psychedelics by self-appointed (or self-anointed) clerics who recognize a shared human condition of wanting a purpose

The openness to an explanation occupies a register in the brain, in a first come first serve basis, and stays there.

Re: Canadians consider certain religions damaging to society: survey

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There's lots of interesting nuance in the actual survey report: https://angusreid.org/canada-religion-interfaith-holy-week/ Edit: Towards the bottom of the report is a matrix showing how the various religious groups feel about each other (net positive/negative). Some takeaways: * Jews and Hindus are the only groups that think positively about all the others * Catholics and Evangelicals are negative on the Jews * Evan…

That table is interesting. The gulf between jewish view of evangelicals (+35) to evangelicals view of jews (-45) is interesting, but there are other situations similar like protestants like evangelicals (+55) while evangelicals are a little cooler to protestants (-10). edit: it seems someone is saying the columns and rows are reversed from how I read it. I don't see where that's indicated, although that makes sense i…

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Re: Canadians consider certain religions damaging to society: survey

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Please consider belief in $GOD as different from $RELIGION. Consider one the theory and the other the implementation, and the latter seems to cause way more difficulties, particularly with respect to the hardware.

To me, the former is a personal spiritual bond while the latter is an imposed social bond. And the further that social bond moves away from the individual experience, the more dimly I tend to view both the religion and its followers.
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