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An Account of the Shanghai Lockdown

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Re: An Account of the Shanghai Lockdown

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Be careful - they are killing peoples dogs that test positive for covid

They are killing the pets if the owners test for covid. https://www.whatsonweibo.com/another-pet-dog-beaten-to-death...

As usual - no sources, no real article to speak of, just a fuel for shills.

Re: An Account of the Shanghai Lockdown

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post #551

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They are killing the pets if the owners test for covid. https://www.whatsonweibo.com/another-pet-dog-beaten-to-death...

As usual - no sources, no real article to speak of, just a fuel for shills.

Ohhh I see, it's just fake news from people in China, they computer generated all the videos in the last week showing culling of animals. Got it, don't trust information coming from China.

Re: An Account of the Shanghai Lockdown

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If SH did carrys out Centre Party's policy like most of other cities does, this bizzare wouldn't happen in the first place, if weepy kid always get what it want, what about the slient most? SH's fault is not CN's fault. China has no face, we just have the biggest slient most, pardon my English if you may ;)

> slient most silent majority?

the biggest silent majority..That would definitly make more sense but my shallow mind sticks to 'most', more poetic it says.

You see, if you pardon my jibber jabber, 'most' is statistic but 'majority' implies some political asset..

Re: An Account of the Shanghai Lockdown

#554

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If SH did carrys out Centre Party's policy like most of other cities does, this bizzare wouldn't happen in the first place, if weepy kid always get what it want, what about the slient most? SH's fault is not CN's fault. China has no face, we just have the biggest slient most, pardon my English if you may ;)

You sound like you’re jealous of Shanghai - that’s understandable, I’m sorry your hukou is from countryside.

appericate your kindess and you just made my day, "a man jealous of a city", how about a fish jealous of earbuds, I mean, it has to be the same species do we?

Re: An Account of the Shanghai Lockdown

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post #551

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As usual - no sources, no real article to speak of, just a fuel for shills.

Ohhh I see, it's just fake news from people in China, they computer generated all the videos in the last week showing culling of animals. Got it, don't trust information coming from China.

No, it’s the selection of facts that makes it a shill outlet. China is twice the size of Europe, I’m pretty sure someone in Europe also killed a dog once. It’s just that there aren’t hundreds of millions of US money spent every year on anti-European propaganda.

Re: An Account of the Shanghai Lockdown

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I'd like to hear from someone in China on why the government still pursues a zero-Covid policy. Is it just face-saving at this point?

One slightly reasonable opinion is that Chinese population density is way higher than anywhere else in the world and it may go out of controll if not 0 policy

Re: An Account of the Shanghai Lockdown

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That's bullshit though. It works, check the statistics.

It's not. Check the statistics in Hong Kong, where hardly anyone died of they were boosted with the BioNTech vaccine, vs almost all the deaths occurring in unvaccinated or Sinovac vaccinated people.

What you're claiming is easily disproven, just by looking at the statistics.[1]

In Hong Kong, 3 doses of Sinovac or BioNTech came out almost exactly even in preventing death. In fact, Sinovac turned out to be slightly more effective, though that could be statistical noise.

1. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.03.22.22272769v...

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Yeah. I mean if it had a purpose it has been served. Why don't they use all that massive CCP infrastructure to have zero tolerance for not getting vaccinated instead? It's ludicrous.

Their vaccine doesn’t work - forcing everyone to get it would only highlight that fact.

The various Chinese vaccines have actually proven to be highly effective at preventing severe disease and death.

In Hong Kong, 3 doses of Sinovac turned out to be just as effective (in fact, slightly more effective, though that could be statistical noise) as 3 doses of BioNTech.[1]

Yet the idea that Chinese vaccines don't work is incredibly widespread in the West. It's pure prejudice, in my opinion.

1. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.03.22.22272769v...

Re: An Account of the Shanghai Lockdown

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Their vaccine doesn’t work - forcing everyone to get it would only highlight that fact.

They have the spycraft and resources to steal moderna and pfizer or even J&J if they wanted it. If that fails, they probably have the money to just buy the rights to produce it. I mean didn't sputnik at least prove somewhat effective?

China already has an indigenously developed vaccine (from CanSino) that uses the same technology as J&J and AstraZeneca. It's just as effective.

> I mean didn't sputnik at least prove somewhat effective?

Sputnik V was one of the most effective vaccines. It was more effective than J&J and AstraZeneca in phase-3 trials.

> they probably have the money to just buy the rights to produce it

A Chinese company, Fosun, invested in the development of the BioNTech vaccine early on, and has the rights to produce and distribute it in China. The vaccine hasn't been approved in mainland China, though.

The efficacy of Chinese vaccines isn't a major issue. They're plenty effective, and 3 doses of Sinovac actually turned out to be just as effective as 3 doses of BioNTech in Hong Kong.[1]

The issue is that old people in China have been hesitant to get vaccinated at all. So far, old people in China have been protected by the zero-CoVID policy, so this hasn't been an issue. If the virus starts spreading, however, it will become an issue.

1. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.03.22.22272769v...

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