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Regardless of what you think of the merits of Jelani's critique, it does not justify calling the cops on him. "Siccing" a twitter mob (something I question whether he really has) is not nearly as bad as "siccing" the government gun guys.
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Let's have this again, Prof Nelson is siccing his Twitter mob on a person doing her job - no matter what we think about the honorarium, Prof Boaler's job is math didactics for disadvantaged populations. That's not "nothing untoward".
Your "siccing a mob" rhetoric is bald-faced anti-democratic. Prof. Nelsons actions are what the public square is all about - expressing your opinions and criticizing things you think are wrong. You are dressing up your argument with all these "anti-woke" signifiers but your claim boils dowj to Prof. Jelani was somehow wrong to express his opinion about actions of the government in a public forum.
or whatever is convenient for you that day, as per the circumstances?
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Your "siccing a mob" rhetoric is bald-faced anti-democratic. Prof. Nelsons actions are what the public square is all about - expressing your opinions and criticizing things you think are wrong. You are dressing up your argument with all these "anti-woke" signifiers but your claim boils dowj to Prof. Jelani was somehow wrong to express his opinion about actions of the government in a public forum.
so is it public square or private company? or whatever is convenient for you that day, as per the circumstances?
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Nobody’s job is to make Californian kids stupider. She is personally profiting by her destruction of math education for untold numbers of kids.
You don't send a Twitter mob after people, full stop, even if they work at schools of education.
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None of his tweets call for "unwanted physical contact, injury, or harassment". Whatever the likely effect of exposing this deal, the government cannot be allowed to suppress reporting it simply because it is outrageous enough to cause angry responses. That's perverse. If public outrage over "alarmingly lucrative" government contracts is prosecuted as harassment, we're lost.
> Nothing in his message calls for "unwanted physical contact, injury, or harassment". The law does not require a call for those things, it requires a purpose and likelihood of inciting them. Both intent and likelihood of effect are things that are routinely found (in criminal law generally) without an explicit call.
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Even if the rate is reasonable, what's the justification for involving the police?
The specific communication about “police and lawyers“ refers to that as a response to online publication of private information. For criminal law enforcement, the most likely applicable law at issue would seem to be California's cyber harassment law.
> with intent to place another person in reasonable fear for his or her safety, or the safety of the other person's immediate family, by means of an electronic communication device
No reasonable person would even get a hint of that from this tweet. It is a criticism of the government's delivery of a program and the alleged misuse of public funds, a classic example of speech that serves the public interest. The idea of a government contractor claiming cyber harassment because someone pointed out their lucrative remuneration is farcical.
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Nobody’s job is to make Californian kids stupider. She is personally profiting by her destruction of math education for untold numbers of kids.
Could you provide some examples to back up that "destruction of math education" claim?
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/04/us/california-math-curric...
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> academic researchers studying pedagogy and had little to no input from actual teachers. This makes sense but doesn’t square with the lack of black authors. Would black academic researchers studying pegagogy be better than actual teachers? It seems the issue is lack of teachers participating in the design and testing of the framework than the race of the authors. Is there a evidence or accusation of discrimination i…
I honestly have no idea because I haven't done (nor do I plan to do as I don't live in California anymore) enough research to have an informed opinion on the topic. However, I think it is generally valid to say that if you are explicitly trying to address how a system (CA math education) is failing a certain group of people (black students), it would be useful to consult with members of that group or people who work…
What is the group ?
Is it black teachers or black students ? Black students from CA ? Black students from CA that failed math ?
Not entirely sure about the details but this dude is extremely suspect. Every single tweet he tries to paint himself as a victim by using charged and misleading words. "You can't call the police on Black people!" is just such an outrageous thing to say in situation which has nothing to do with race and which you didn't interact with the police at all.
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Could you provide some examples to back up that "destruction of math education" claim?
They are trying to “close the achievement gap” by limiting achievement. It’s a crime against humanity of a different kind. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/04/us/california-math-curric...
That being said, from reading this article as well as this [1] and skimming Boaler's Twitter [2], if I had to guess... this CA initiative sounds like an honest, curious effort to make at least some progress, for which Boaler allegedly received death threats and harassment, as opposed to a "crime against humanity."
[1] https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/California-math-...