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Re: Stanford prof calls police after whistleblower exposes $5000/hour gov. contacts

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Post by HarryHirsch »

sgdjgkeirj wrote: post #9
version_five wrote: post #5

This seems like an agitator trying to raise a fuss, not a "whistleblower" (I guess maybe that's how the term is used now). I'd encourage people to read the surrounding tweets, he looks like someone who wants to be outraged about something more than a brave soul calling out some malfeasance. That aside, if this money is for facilitating sessions, as another comment implies, it is perfectly reasonable. The facilitator…

Prof Nelson didn’t call himself “whistleblower “ but it does seem untoward that the main author of the California math framework is also making $5000/hour when the client is not a tech company but a public school district with mostly minority and economically disadvantaged students. In any case, if there is nothing untoward, why threaten him with “police and lawyers”?

Let's have this again, Prof Nelson is siccing his Twitter mob on a person doing her job - no matter what we think about the honorarium, Prof Boaler's job is math didactics for disadvantaged populations.

That's not "nothing untoward".

Re: Stanford prof calls police after whistleblower exposes $5000/hour gov. contacts

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Post by spoonjim »

HarryHirsch wrote: post #11
sgdjgkeirj wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Prof Nelson didn’t call himself “whistleblower “ but it does seem untoward that the main author of the California math framework is also making $5000/hour when the client is not a tech company but a public school district with mostly minority and economically disadvantaged students. In any case, if there is nothing untoward, why threaten him with “police and lawyers”?

Let's have this again, Prof Nelson is siccing his Twitter mob on a person doing her job - no matter what we think about the honorarium, Prof Boaler's job is math didactics for disadvantaged populations. That's not "nothing untoward".

Nobody’s job is to make Californian kids stupider. She is personally profiting by her destruction of math education for untold numbers of kids.

Re: Stanford prof calls police after whistleblower exposes $5000/hour gov. contacts

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Post by hansvm »

leereeves wrote: post #8
version_five wrote: post #5

This seems like an agitator trying to raise a fuss, not a "whistleblower" (I guess maybe that's how the term is used now). I'd encourage people to read the surrounding tweets, he looks like someone who wants to be outraged about something more than a brave soul calling out some malfeasance. That aside, if this money is for facilitating sessions, as another comment implies, it is perfectly reasonable. The facilitator…

Even if the rate is reasonable, what's the justification for involving the police?

The stated reason was doxxing.

Re: Stanford prof calls police after whistleblower exposes $5000/hour gov. contacts

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Post by HarryHirsch »

spoonjim wrote: post #12
HarryHirsch wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's have this again, Prof Nelson is siccing his Twitter mob on a person doing her job - no matter what we think about the honorarium, Prof Boaler's job is math didactics for disadvantaged populations. That's not "nothing untoward".

Nobody’s job is to make Californian kids stupider. She is personally profiting by her destruction of math education for untold numbers of kids.

You don't send a Twitter mob after people, full stop, even if they work at schools of education.

Re: Stanford prof calls police after whistleblower exposes $5000/hour gov. contacts

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Post by dragonwriter »

leereeves wrote: post #8
version_five wrote: post #5

This seems like an agitator trying to raise a fuss, not a "whistleblower" (I guess maybe that's how the term is used now). I'd encourage people to read the surrounding tweets, he looks like someone who wants to be outraged about something more than a brave soul calling out some malfeasance. That aside, if this money is for facilitating sessions, as another comment implies, it is perfectly reasonable. The facilitator…

Even if the rate is reasonable, what's the justification for involving the police?

The specific communication about “police and lawyers“ refers to that as a response to online publication of private information. For criminal law enforcement, the most likely applicable law at issue would seem to be California's cyber harassment law.

Re: Stanford prof calls police after whistleblower exposes $5000/hour gov. contacts

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Post by leereeves »

dragonwriter wrote: post #17
leereeves wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if the rate is reasonable, what's the justification for involving the police?

The specific communication about “police and lawyers“ refers to that as a response to online publication of private information. For criminal law enforcement, the most likely applicable law at issue would seem to be California's cyber harassment law.

I don't see how his original tweet [1] could possibly be considered harassment. Libel, perhaps, if untrue, but that's a civil matter, not something that police would handle.

1: https://twitter.com/minilek/status/1509678967472549889

Re: Stanford prof calls police after whistleblower exposes $5000/hour gov. contacts

#19

Post by oneepic »

spoonjim wrote: post #12
HarryHirsch wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's have this again, Prof Nelson is siccing his Twitter mob on a person doing her job - no matter what we think about the honorarium, Prof Boaler's job is math didactics for disadvantaged populations. That's not "nothing untoward".

Nobody’s job is to make Californian kids stupider. She is personally profiting by her destruction of math education for untold numbers of kids.

Could you provide some examples to back up that "destruction of math education" claim?

Re: Stanford prof calls police after whistleblower exposes $5000/hour gov. contacts

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Post by dragonwriter »

leereeves wrote: post #18
dragonwriter wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The specific communication about “police and lawyers“ refers to that as a response to online publication of private information. For criminal law enforcement, the most likely applicable law at issue would seem to be California's cyber harassment law.

I don't see how his original tweet [1] could possibly be considered harassment. Libel, perhaps, if untrue, but that's a civil matter, not something that police would handle. 1: https://twitter.com/minilek/status/1509678967472549889

California’s indirect cyber harassment law (Penal Code § 653.2) prohibits nonconsensual electronic publication of personally identifying information “for the purpose of imminently causing that other person unwanted physical contact, injury, or harassment, by a third party“ when the information published would be likely to produce or incite the unlawful act that is it's purpose. It's basically an anti-malicious-doxxing law.
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