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Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by chc »

trashtester wrote: post #731
orblivion wrote: post #691

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Why would Elon Musk spend his capacity to get things done on something like Twitter? He's got planets to colonize. Interesting point to question his motives, but for now I take him at his word regarding the free speech thing. I guess it could be something more nefarious as well.

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You see both white nationalism and civil rights as political antipatterns? What do you consider a healthy political environment? Complete stagnation where people who got theirs are OK but no one else can ever rise to that level? Or do you mean something different by "woke" than its usual meaning of "aware of inequities and desiring to fix them"?

Edit: I see the free speech proponents are here to try to make my comment invisible. Come on guys, don't give in to cancel culture like this!

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by namecheapTA »

spsful wrote: post #758
fleddr wrote: post #678

I think people are really over-analyzing this move. I think it's motivated by prestige, not money, nor is free speech the heart of the matter. Twitter is a stagnant company. They have thousands of engineers that in the span of a decade don't seem to produce much at all, nothing visible or memorable anyway. Long-lasting Twitter problems (culture, spam, algorithm issues) never seem addressed. User growth is stagnating…

- Completely redesigning their UI two times over, - Launching a subscription-based service (which seems to make it the first social media network without ads) - Lengthening tweets to 280 characters - Letting users make money off their following (super followers) I'm confused as to how any of this makes it stagnant.

As a one man show SAaS with enough customers to basically live my life.. I lol at these achievements.

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Post by fortyseven »

caffeine wrote: post #617
pixelatedindex wrote: post #435

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Very unclear if this should have ended in a /s or not - which is more of a reflection of the world in which we live in rather than the comment itself.

I meant every word (and more.)

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Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by cbsmith »

adventured wrote: post #574
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Huh, wha?

If you're wondering about the neutrality premise. The furthest ~25% on the left and right have an increasingly extreme, partisan, borderline psychotic view of the world that you're either with us or against us. That polarization has become radically more aggressive over the past decade. Just to use a simple example: someone might might say it's not enough to not oppose men becoming women and dominating female swimmin…

It does not seem like the solution to the problem would be change the mission of the mainstream platform. It would undoubtedly fall victim to whatever these mysterious forces are.

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Post by cbsmith »

systemvoltage wrote: post #589
cbsmith wrote: post #561

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Huh, wha?

Well, the problem I see is the following: - Claim that Twitter is a private corporation and its their rules (Btw, you can check my history in 2020 where I did support purge of Trump from social media, but I am now comtemplating). - But, anyone who starts a new platform (let's assume similar to r/conservative which is absolutely not neo-nazi or fascist), gets intense pushback from the existing incumbents not with mark…

There seems like there's a presumption that already successful companies are not subject to the same forces as other companies, despite all the evidence (including Twitter's experience) to the contrary.

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Post by fortyseven »

convery wrote: post #607
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As long as it's honestly communicated beforehand, and employees are not deceived about compensation and workload as they voluntary sign the contract, is it bad or immoral in any meaningful way?

I'd say no. But given the trend of people calling 20 hours a week "slavery", demanding debt forgiveness; and such. It seems like it's becoming a minority opinion to let consenting adults make their own informed decisions (and deal with the consequences of them)..

Oh, bullishit. Corporations will take every inch you give them, right up to the red line. Then that becomes "normal". And then you'll cheer them on for it, probably.

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Post by singlow »

k__ wrote: post #506
throwaway5752 wrote: post #493

"For so long as Mr. Musk is serving on the Board and for 90 days thereafter, Mr. Musk will not, either alone or as a member of a group, become the beneficial owner of more than 14.9% of the Company’s common stock outstanding at such time, including for these purposes economic exposure through derivative securities, swaps, or hedging transactions." This is the second line in the linked filing, and something a number o…

lol, what's the meaning of that? So he doesn't down the stock with his decisions and buys it cheap later?

OK, Elon, lets settle. Let's give you a board seat but you have to promise not to try and buy up controlling shares in the company and privatize it in a hostile takeover.

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Post by TaylorAlexander »

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Musk has proven to be a 'get shit done' kind of guy though, so if he did want to push through changes he certainly has the capability to do it.

He often doesn't do things "by the book" and will not wait for what he thinks is unnecessary red-tape. He will skirt around regulations and taunt the process the entire way. We've seen it many times before, and it's always purely in the benefit of whatever company he's helping at the time. He has no problem throwing people/money/etc. at the problem to get the result he wants and if someone so much as says the opposit…

Considering where Tesla was when he joined and what they have become, I’d say it’s fair to call himself a late-joining founder. This would obviously not be true of Twitter.

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Post by da39a3ee »

chc wrote: post #771
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You see both white nationalism and civil rights as political antipatterns? What do you consider a healthy political environment? Complete stagnation where people who got theirs are OK but no one else can ever rise to that level? Or do you mean something different by "woke" than its usual meaning of "aware of inequities and desiring to fix them"? Edit: I see the free speech proponents are here to try to make my commen…

Woke is a disparaging term used to refer to people espousing broadly left wing “progressive” ideologies, who are obsessed with issues affecting minorities and “inclusion”, yet fail to recognize that their intolerance and refusal to respect differing views are utterly exclusionary.

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Post by dragonwriter »

gnicholas wrote: post #664
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> This development makes Trump being reinstated on Twitter more likely. Maybe. > His reinstatement would make a Trump presidency less likely, IMO. That's...an interesting opinion, but I don't see any strong reason to believe it is true, or even more likely to be true than the opposite effect. > Most people (or at least HNers) would agree that decreasing the likelihood of another Trump presidency would be a good thing…

I understand he polls we’ll head to head, but most Americans would prefer he not be the next president (whether they prefer a democrat, republican, or something else). And I cannot imagine that most HNers want another Trump presidency. I would speculate that part of the reason he’s polling so well (relatively speaking) right now is that he’s been off twitter for the last year.

> I understand he polls we’ll head to head, but most Americans would prefer he not be the next president

That's true of literally every possible candidate; no candidate is preferred by the majority of people, and Trump is preferred by the largest minority.

> I would speculate that part of the reason he’s polling so well (relatively speaking) right now is that he’s been off twitter for the last year.

I would speculate that almost the entire reason is that he successfully took over the Republican brand and people are dissatisfied with the present conditions, largely due to economic conditions, particularly inflation.

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