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Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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How does Elon run his companies any differently than the vast majority of tech companies out there?

He's known for running his employees into the ground, generally treating people poorly. Pay is sub-par compared both to big tech for tech workers (although not really when the stock does well) and to skilled labor for laborers. You can compare ratings of the company on sites like Indeed to other big tech, and I'm sure you can find some articles about the working conditions (I recall some being published over the year…

3.4 out of five stars is not bad. Low score due to lack of advancement. 3.0 for work life balance is pretty good:

https://www.indeed.com/cmp/Tesla/reviews

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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post #507

It's easy to look at Musk's tweets and think he's just doing buying in so he can shitpost more effectively, but he is savvy enough to realize that Twitter is not nearly as valuable as it could be. Its reach is as huge as any network and anyone with a public presence "has to" be on it. The big knock against it is that users and brands are afraid of spontaneous howling mobs. Fewer users means less reach and fewer brand…

> Maybe (spitballing here) more tools for users who are QT'd

Yes - slowing down the rate of Twitter pile ons would help a lot. Rate limiting QTs from non-followers would help a lot I think. You could even extend this to manual text quotations and screenshots, using either printer dots or OCR. Subtweeting is fine - the point should be to avoid making randos the "it" person on Twitter.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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post #379

Much needed change, I would hope he will fire the CEO and the existing leadership at Twitter and replace them with those who really want to make Twitter a neutral, respected platform for discussion.

is the current ceo less neutral than Jack was?

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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post #52

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Elon is his one of his new bosses, I would take anything the CEO says with a grain of salt.

I give his tenure as CEO 6 months at most before he's forced out by the board, or resigns for ideological differences. The changing wind that Elon is going to usher in is going to be fundamental and sweeping, and I wouldn't be surprised to see an exodus of employees follow.

What changing wind could Elon Musk usher?

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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post #52

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I give his tenure as CEO 6 months at most before he's forced out by the board, or resigns for ideological differences. The changing wind that Elon is going to usher in is going to be fundamental and sweeping, and I wouldn't be surprised to see an exodus of employees follow.

An employee exodus from Twitter would only be a good thing in my eyes. They're all too ideological from my experience.

But now they are contained to one entity wouldn’t it make more sense with your reasoning to keep them together?

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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post #5

I think Twitter's CEO summed it up well, and I agree: > He’s both a passionate believer and intense critic of the service which is exactly what we need on @Twitter, and in the boardroom, to make us stronger in the long-term. Welcome Elon! https://twitter.com/paraga/status/1511320964813910017

I do think Elon will provide a valuable counter-balance to the current monoculture that drives Twitter.

But I do not believe Elon in of himself can really resolve Twitter's ills (by my subjective assessment). Twitter and other social networks are ultimately reflections of parts of humanity. Us humans have our biases and our drives that don't just go away. You can obviously (and should) tweak the product to incentivize more productive dialog, but you can't overwrite our biases/drives/distribution of competencies by updating Twitter.

Personally, I view these social networks as mirrors, revealing parts of our humanity as it currently is. A lot of us don't like what we see, and we fixate strictly on the mirror, suggesting it's strictly the mirror's fault for displaying the unflattering image.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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> one of its competitors rises The ideological complex has not allowed anyone to rise. That's the issue. Even neutrality is considered distasteful.

Huh, wha?

Well, the problem I see is the following:

- Claim that Twitter is a private corporation and its their rules (Btw, you can check my history in 2020 where I did support purge of Trump from social media, but I am now comtemplating).

- But, anyone who starts a new platform (let's assume similar to r/conservative which is absolutely not neo-nazi or fascist), gets intense pushback from the existing incumbents not with market forces, but rather with censorship, algorithms, political and misinformation driven opposition.

So now we have public square that enjoys monopolistic powers (yes, government officials exclusively publishing on Twitter. Your tax money cannot buy a platform where you can listen to the constitutuents that you voted for), but also prevents incumbents from rising through political proxies that I mentioned earlier.

This is scary.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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post #507

It's easy to look at Musk's tweets and think he's just doing buying in so he can shitpost more effectively, but he is savvy enough to realize that Twitter is not nearly as valuable as it could be. Its reach is as huge as any network and anyone with a public presence "has to" be on it. The big knock against it is that users and brands are afraid of spontaneous howling mobs. Fewer users means less reach and fewer brand…

I hope that's the reason. I've always said Twitter has unbelievably untapped potential that for whatever reason, its current management is unable or unwilling to realize. Over the years they've kept the platform stagnant at best or filled with user dark patterns at worst. Not to mention their hostility to the developer community.
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