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Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by pavlov »

cactus2093 wrote: post #205
pavlov wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been both a shareholder (since 2013) and customer of Tesla, and probably won't buy one of their products again. I feel deceived about spending over $5k on that "full self-driving" package that three years later still does nothing of the sort. The fact that I made a little money on Elon's coattails doesn't make it OK for him to constantly lie to customers.

150x on your investment in 9 years is more than "a little money".

It was a very good return on a small investment. I mostly missed the post-pandemic boom selling too early, so I guess I made around 20-30x overall.

Doesn't change my opinion of Musk's practices. If he's selling very expensive features that are actually donations into the hopes & dreams tip jar, it should be clearly marked as such.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by Sohcahtoa82 »

pavlov wrote: post #145
emteycz wrote: post #114

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Are you a shareholder of TSLA? I am, and I am happy with Elon.

I've been both a shareholder (since 2013) and customer of Tesla, and probably won't buy one of their products again. I feel deceived about spending over $5k on that "full self-driving" package that three years later still does nothing of the sort. The fact that I made a little money on Elon's coattails doesn't make it OK for him to constantly lie to customers.

I bought a Tesla in 2019 and chose not to buy FSD because I knew it wasn't implemented yet and won't be for several years. If you thought you were going to get FSD any time soon, you weren't paying attention.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by alimov »

daenz wrote: post #376
babl-yc wrote: post #340

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If you think that Elon's pure objective is to get rich and live a lavish lifestyle, you haven't followed him very closely. My impression is that he uses his wealth mostly to invest in other ventures that he feels are important causes to him.

But he makes money from those ventures and is therefore immoral! /s I don't understand why so many people seem to hold the attitude that the only acceptable response to someone having money is to pressure them to squander it by giving it all away to atrociously inefficient systems (government, charities, etc). Making money is not immoral. And neither is using money to make investments to make more money.

It could be argued that the reason governments are “inefficient systems” (particularly in the US) is in large part due to the same people making ridiculous amounts of money. So while you’re being sarcastic, and probably believe that you too “can make it” don’t be surprised when you don’t, and when the government becomes even less efficient because private interests keep using their wealth to strip it of anything useful to regular people.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by bequanna »

jack_squat wrote: post #378
bequanna wrote: post #320

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I'm sure this is all 100% true and in no way backlash for Musk's decision to shift operations away from California and very loud criticism of CA's politicians/bureaucrats.

Do you think that's how it works? I have no idea, what's your evidence? California's actions seems pretty consistent with this to me: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.31...

> Do you think that's how it works? I have no idea, what's your evidence?

Do I think that people leverage their positions of power in the govt to strike blows when they are offended or threatened? Absolutely.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by adolph »

mc32 wrote: post #277
jmkni wrote: post #5

I think Twitter's CEO summed it up well, and I agree: > He’s both a passionate believer and intense critic of the service which is exactly what we need on @Twitter, and in the boardroom, to make us stronger in the long-term. Welcome Elon! https://twitter.com/paraga/status/1511320964813910017

I just want to know if this means Musk or anyone on the board can veto “bans” either on himself, themselves or for others… Will that account that tacks his plane continue tracking his plane?

Maybe a super blue check for shareholders, like a green dollar sign

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by zthrowaway »

rossdavidh wrote: post #353

Hypothesis: this is not about Elon running Twitter, controlling society, insuring free speech, or any other such thing. It's simply that he wants insurance against being de-platformed, and now he has it.

His gripe is that Twitter is not a neutral platform and has a lot of ideological issues that have massive impact on society. What you're saying just goes full circle into that point.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by peeters »

lbriner wrote: post #85

I have obviously missed something but what is the main objection to Musk being part of Twitter's board?

I'm pretty neutral on Musk but he has an established track record of saying stupid shit on Twitter and ruining others' days/lives. Market manipulation, libel, trolling, etc. I guess I don't trust that a man with that kind of track record would be a positive influence on the social media hellscape we already have.

This is acknowledging that he also shares awesome stuff, like technical SpaceX details, and that he often engages with people in a real cool way.

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Post by twofornone »

I think generally the political right in the US is effectively underserved by social media, because all of the giants seem to lean pretty openly left. If Musk can make the platform more neutral this could be a massive business opportunity, if not to grow then to at least ensure Twitter's market dominance by venting some of the pressure for a competitor.

Never would have bothered before but I'm long TWTR now, worth a gamble since everything Elon touches turns to gold, even if only because of cult of personality...

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Post by burnished »

lstamour wrote: post #208
elicash wrote: post #118

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> This was almost certainly done by a lawyer working on his behalf. Are you arguing that when he signs his name and certifies that the (short) form is "true, complete and correct" that he is not responsible because the form was prepared by an attorney of his? > being seized upon by the media How did "the media" seize on this? When I last checked, there were zero articles. And even if they had, why wouldn't discussion…

> When I last checked, there were zero articles. Can I introduce you to Matt Levine? A very popular opinion columnist - you can get his column by email even without a subscription to Bloomberg, but he’s one of the reasons I subscribe. His take on this was emailed out midday yesterday and I enjoyed every minute: https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-04-04/elon-m... You can find an archive of columns here: ht…

Well, the recommend may have bounced off the intended target but I appreciated it.
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