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Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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This is the biggest thing to happen to twitter since the trump presidency. Both big for twitter, and awful for society.

And both might be related. Motivation for any billionaire to back Republican top candidates is to repeal all Billionaire Tax legislature that might pass soon.

I see this move as an opportunity to gatekeep politicians on his platform in exchange for favorable treatment.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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post #206

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> Elon Musk is kind of obnoxious. He lies (or "exaggerates"). > If you hate Elon Musk, consider probing your mind deeply to figure out why. I'm not a hater, but I can understand why others are. Like you said, he's obnoxious. And he lies. Which should be enough justification by itself. But he's also really fucking rich, which is a teeth-grindingly annoying combination. I really admire what he's done for the Electric V…

Lots of celebrities are gigantic douchebags and no one cares. Why do people care with Elon? Why does he have a parade of haters not just criticizing his attitude but also claiming that his work isn't valuable? It's not because "they don't care about EVs or rockets," it's something deeper and uglier.

> It's not because "they don't care about EVs or rockets," it's something deeper and uglier.

Then stop hand waving with poor analogies and just say what it is then.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Fascinating to me the level of vitriol that spews from people on this guy. He's just a guy, you know?

Basically he's got a lot of money. People will attack him no matter what he does, in an effort to redistribute his wealth. It's game theory, there are no billionaires who are liked.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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> He filed forms that he was going to be a passive investor This was almost certainly done by a lawyer working on his behalf. This strikes me as a technicality of paperwork that is being seized upon by the media as a way to portray Musk in the worst possible light. > I wouldn't want somebody like him on my board In this hypothetical, what is your role (i.e. fellow shareholder, CEO, employee)? I ask because shareholde…

Yeah this isn't how contracts work. You don't get to say "what do I know, it was prepared by an attorney".

What? Of course it does. There are many cases that if you can prove you didn't know you get away scot-free.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

#275

This is the biggest thing to happen to twitter since the trump presidency. Both big for twitter, and awful for society.

And both might be related. Motivation for any billionaire to back Republican top candidates is to repeal all Billionaire Tax legislature that might pass soon.

> ...Billionaire Tax legislature

No such thing will ever happen. This is just political theater for the sake of appeasing the "sour grapes" faction on the left. There is no political will to tax unrealized gains, tax wealth, etc.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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post #206

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> Elon Musk is kind of obnoxious. He lies (or "exaggerates"). > If you hate Elon Musk, consider probing your mind deeply to figure out why. I'm not a hater, but I can understand why others are. Like you said, he's obnoxious. And he lies. Which should be enough justification by itself. But he's also really fucking rich, which is a teeth-grindingly annoying combination. I really admire what he's done for the Electric V…

Lots of celebrities are gigantic douchebags and no one cares. Why do people care with Elon? Why does he have a parade of haters not just criticizing his attitude but also claiming that his work isn't valuable? It's not because "they don't care about EVs or rockets," it's something deeper and uglier.

Celebrities who are douche bags are criticized all the time — I'm not sure what your point is exactly. Musk is not just a "celebrity," he is one of the most powerful men on the planet. Most celebrities don't control 10% of one the most powerful media apparatuses in the country.

Musk is seen by many as a sociopathic narcissist who will do whatever it takes to get what he wants. Doing things like sending private investigators to try and dig up dirt on that rescue diver who criticized him hardly distances him from that image (and doesn't help his claims of being a "free speech absolutist" either). Those traits combined with tremendous power are generally not a good combination.

We don't owe him anything for his business ventures. He isn't running a charity. He isn't doing it for you and me. Electric cars and rockets are very cool, but are not moving humanity into some new dawn. The idea that he is some necessary component of "hard evidence that we can build new things" that deserves special treatment is borne straight out of a personality cult. Pointing this out is a far cry from "claiming his work isn't valuable."

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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I think Twitter's CEO summed it up well, and I agree: > He’s both a passionate believer and intense critic of the service which is exactly what we need on @Twitter, and in the boardroom, to make us stronger in the long-term. Welcome Elon! https://twitter.com/paraga/status/1511320964813910017

I just want to know if this means Musk or anyone on the board can veto “bans” either on himself, themselves or for others…

Will that account that tacks his plane continue tracking his plane?

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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> When I last checked, there were zero articles. Can I introduce you to Matt Levine? A very popular opinion columnist - you can get his column by email even without a subscription to Bloomberg, but he’s one of the reasons I subscribe. His take on this was emailed out midday yesterday and I enjoyed every minute: https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-04-04/elon-m... You can find an archive of columns here: ht…

I personally find this style of writing pretentious, obnoxious and egotistical.

He keep making jokes about how boring and unimportant he is compared to the people he writes about. How do you get pretentious or egotistical?

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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post #85

I have obviously missed something but what is the main objection to Musk being part of Twitter's board?

One problem is the culture he's created at his other companies.

"Black Tesla employees describe a culture of racism: ‘I was at my breaking point’ " https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2022-03-25/black-tesl...

"California sues Tesla, alleging rampant racism at factory" https://www.npr.org/2022/02/15/1080884899/california-sues-te...

"Black workers accused Tesla of racism for years. Now California is stepping in" https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/feb/18/tesla-cal...

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