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Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by syshum »

slibhb wrote: post #150
justapassenger wrote: post #42

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Misleading investors is one of Elon’s main jobs. And he’ll continue doing so, as we doesn’t face any consequences for it (expect for becoming ultra rich).

Elon Musk is kind of obnoxious. He lies (or "exaggerates"). But what Tesla has done is insane. It's happened so quickly, and that's leaving aside the rockets. The hard evidence that we can build new things, that we can progress and build a future that's better than the present is so important. If it takes a flawed man to show us that, I'll take it. If you hate Elon Musk, consider probing your mind deeply to figure ou…

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Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by mhh__ »

sixQuarks wrote: post #183
lbriner wrote: post #85

I have obviously missed something but what is the main objection to Musk being part of Twitter's board?

HN has a bias against Elon Musk. That’s pretty much what you need to know.

Or for Elon Musk, depends who you ask. HN is't a person's initials.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by TechBro8615 »

steelframe wrote: post #80

Is there a law akin to Godwin's or Sturgeon's about all social media trending toward some failure state? Several years ago I deleted all my FB content and then disabled my account. Looks like it's time to do that with my Twitter account now.

Yes, it’s called Eternal September. [0]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by cactus2093 »

pavlov wrote: post #145
emteycz wrote: post #114

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Are you a shareholder of TSLA? I am, and I am happy with Elon.

I've been both a shareholder (since 2013) and customer of Tesla, and probably won't buy one of their products again. I feel deceived about spending over $5k on that "full self-driving" package that three years later still does nothing of the sort. The fact that I made a little money on Elon's coattails doesn't make it OK for him to constantly lie to customers.

150x on your investment in 9 years is more than "a little money".

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Post by slibhb »

Karellen wrote: post #184
slibhb wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Elon Musk is kind of obnoxious. He lies (or "exaggerates"). But what Tesla has done is insane. It's happened so quickly, and that's leaving aside the rockets. The hard evidence that we can build new things, that we can progress and build a future that's better than the present is so important. If it takes a flawed man to show us that, I'll take it. If you hate Elon Musk, consider probing your mind deeply to figure ou…

> Elon Musk is kind of obnoxious. He lies (or "exaggerates"). > If you hate Elon Musk, consider probing your mind deeply to figure out why. I'm not a hater, but I can understand why others are. Like you said, he's obnoxious. And he lies. Which should be enough justification by itself. But he's also really fucking rich, which is a teeth-grindingly annoying combination. I really admire what he's done for the Electric V…

Lots of celebrities are gigantic douchebags and no one cares. Why do people care with Elon? Why does he have a parade of haters not just criticizing his attitude but also claiming that his work isn't valuable?

It's not because "they don't care about EVs or rockets," it's something deeper and uglier.

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Post by lstamour »

elicash wrote: post #118
next_xibalba wrote: post #91

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> He filed forms that he was going to be a passive investor This was almost certainly done by a lawyer working on his behalf. This strikes me as a technicality of paperwork that is being seized upon by the media as a way to portray Musk in the worst possible light. > I wouldn't want somebody like him on my board In this hypothetical, what is your role (i.e. fellow shareholder, CEO, employee)? I ask because shareholde…

> This was almost certainly done by a lawyer working on his behalf. Are you arguing that when he signs his name and certifies that the (short) form is "true, complete and correct" that he is not responsible because the form was prepared by an attorney of his? > being seized upon by the media How did "the media" seize on this? When I last checked, there were zero articles. And even if they had, why wouldn't discussion…

> When I last checked, there were zero articles.

Can I introduce you to Matt Levine? A very popular opinion columnist - you can get his column by email even without a subscription to Bloomberg, but he’s one of the reasons I subscribe.

His take on this was emailed out midday yesterday and I enjoyed every minute: https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-04-04/elon-m...

You can find an archive of columns here: https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/authors/ARbTQlRLRjE/matthe... and the email sign up is at http://www.bloomberg.com/newsletters (it used to be a bit easier to find… but pick “Money Stuff” from the list)

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Post by sillysaurusx »

falcolas wrote: post #149
emteycz wrote: post #114

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Are you a shareholder of TSLA? I am, and I am happy with Elon.

Do you realize how short sighted this sounds? "I don't care what Elon does as long as it makes me money."

Why is that short sighted? That seems the opposite.

If you had a money printer, wouldn't you give it a lot of freedom? Personally I'd draw the line at killing a dog or cat. Other than that, well... If it wanted to knock out a few walls, I'd just sigh and put up with the noise for a few months.

(For context, I'm undecided about Elon. But none of the counterarguments to his behavior seem persuasive yet.)

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Post by thirdwhrldPzz »

mostertoaster wrote: post #161
justapassenger wrote: post #42

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Misleading investors is one of Elon’s main jobs. And he’ll continue doing so, as we doesn’t face any consequences for it (expect for becoming ultra rich).

I dont know about electric cars, but what Elon did with space x is simply incredible. Commercial space flights were becoming rarer and rarer out of the US, and now it is the most common. The price of space flight while still high, was reduced by a huge percentage. I’m sure he told many lies to get there. But economics and physics don’t really lie. I like him for the reasons I like Kanye, Bernie Sanders, and Trump (th…

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