If I received this I would do my best to steer clear of this person. Hopefully you put at least as much effort into acquiring social skills as telling people exactly how to communicate with you.
Did you even skim it? It starts with humility, shares that he believes his coworkers are vitally important and worthy of respect and support, then moves onto core values like empathy. Like, its a little awkward, but based on writing samples I'd rather work with this David guy than with you.
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#192Can anyone here give me an honest review of the doc I send people who reach out to me who I don't know? I definitely want to know if this doc comes off as condescending. https://vinay.notion.site/If-you-want-to-work-with-me-at-Loo...
Comes off as very silly and insecure. It seems like it's written purely for you to curate your professional persona and to give people a good impression of yourself. A corporate kool-aid drinking work-a-holics version of a Twitter bio, just needlessly long and self-indulgent. At least Twitter bios are limited in length. If you actually cared about the recipients of this document it would be half a page or shorter and…
* meaningless corporate jargon * silly and insecure * corporate kool-aid
I will gladly revise so I don't come off that way.
For the "work-a-loholics" comment, I certainly am a workaholic and you can easily find that online. I don't apologize for it, and I don't mind if others aren't but it will be a problem if that fact makes you salty. I'm doing a lot of shit, and I'm not sorry if that makes you insecure in yourself, although I do hope you work through that for your own benefit.
> have bullet points of your biggest weaknesses or eccentricities and other actionable info
The point of this document is to respond to someone who already wants to work with me and get signal through our hiring process to know if I should refer them in (ideally quickly). Highlighting my biggest weaknesses (something you can Google for - I'm very open about myself) feels off topic and doesn't seem to actually solve anyone's pain points (mine or the candidate's).
That said, I have been told that I can be long-winded in my writing, so it's valuable to get that feedback. I will take a stab at cutting as much fluff as possible - thank you!
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#193To me, it seems a little condescending to be told how to act toward someone. On some level it is helpful to know your teammates, but on the other hand it can come across as self centered, like you think you're special and require special instructions for interacting with. I'm sure you have good intentions in creating this, but if someone gave this to me I would instantly thing "oh man this person is going to be high…
To my eyes the comments read like pattern matches on low-level grammar and lexical choice. RFCs are even more egregious users of imperative language, but I don't see many people getting their jimmies ruffled about that, so I wonder what kind of social background and circumstances could make simple grammar features feel like a strong signal of character to people.
As a point of contrast, if discussion brought up things like the following, I would instead feel eminent warmness and inclusiveness:
- There is not a social norm encouraging people to write "Me Manuals", so what factors might bring such an idea to salience?
- Cultivating such a document and sharing with people exposes a lot of vulnerability. What does this act itself communicate? (Cooperative intent? Perfectionist tendencies? Bravery? Narcissism?)
- How would a document like this parse out under various different cultural and corporate norms?
- What are the failure modes of trying to communicate nuances of human cooperation through low-bandwidth channels of explicit delineation?
- Engaging witch such a document also engages our Kahneman System 1 cognition strongly. What can we glean about our individual biases by the snap-judgements and intuitions we feel reading the article?
- Are there historical or anthropological analogies we can draw to a "Me Manual" practice that could shed light on how such it may operate?
Et cetera. Personally, the author's article pushes my priors about him/her in the direction of earnest, open, optimistic, defaulting to cooperation vs competition, and perhaps having perfectionist tendencies. My base-rate estimate for this personality is semi-low, but the article feels like a pretty strong signal, so overall, I would feel cautiously hopeful about working with the author.
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#194Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you point to specific examples? This is very much a living document, always looking for ways to improve it.
It's impersonal, sterile, generic (what does a corporate word like "excellence" actually mean in practice?), and simultaneously intrusive and lacking in empathy for readers. What you have written is actually a list of demands. Not likes. Not tendencies. Not polite requests. Not values you hope to share with others by meeting them half way, possibly clumsily but with good faith. Demands. There is no social context in…
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#195Aside from the reflexive “yikes, dude” that this gives me, I wouldn’t trust the content itself. A manual written by someone who’s worked with you for years would be far more valuable. But my first impression of a person who hands me something like this is going to be “what past interpersonal disasters have you wrought that led you to put time into something like this?” …case in point is a current coworker of mine, wh…
That said, many of the points seem (from eyeballing) seem quite reasonable, and to touch on certain (sadly) highly prevalent anti-patterns in the modern w$rk culture (especially these days, when anyone remotely competent can catapult to a senior-sounding position within a couple of years, without much in the way of actual people and business process experience to match).
For example, the items on:
- expecting others to read your mind and/or take hints (sometimes sanctioning them for not doing so)
- dragging people into meetings that aren't effective or especially relevant to them (as if their time is infinite and worthless)
- assuming everyone is on the same "channel" as you (in regard to social media, answering texts at crazy hours, etc)
Seem to be basically on point, and sadly, do not go "without saying" in the modern work universe (given how frequently these basic points of decency are overrun or ignored, in some environments).
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#196Earlier quoted context omitted.
Did you even skim it? It starts with humility, shares that he believes his coworkers are vitally important and worthy of respect and support, then moves onto core values like empathy. Like, its a little awkward, but based on writing samples I'd rather work with this David guy than with you.
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#197Can anyone here give me an honest review of the doc I send people who reach out to me who I don't know? I definitely want to know if this doc comes off as condescending. https://vinay.notion.site/If-you-want-to-work-with-me-at-Loo...
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#199Cool, and then let's make it harassment to ignore the instructions in somebodies user manual (not just ignoring their pronoun preference), so everybody has to learn the user manual of all their colleagues by heart.
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#200Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wow, I’m gobsmacked at your example. Are you really arguing that transgender people are somehow abusing and disrespecting others by asking to be acknowledged as they wish to be? Would you be ‘abused’ if I mentioned my same-sex spouse and it violated your assumed reality?
You can ask and it is polite to adhere to the wish, but you can not demand it. Ultimately you have no right to intrude on my brain, sorry. "Would you be ‘abused’ if I mentioned my same-sex spouse and it violated your assumed reality?" Probably not because I could see that your spouse has the same sex as you, so it wouldn't violate my perception? I don't get the point of your example. The point of the "publicly state…
what right do you actually claim to protect your perceptions? lordy, what a mess.