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How to work with me

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Re: How to work with me

#171
I think there's some nice points in there, but it keeps switching between "how to work with me," and "how to work with others" (maybe me, maybe not me).

For myself, I feel that the posts I put up here (on HN) give a fairly decent idea of what I'm like, but it's been my experience that folks will interpret them to fit whatever narrative they choose (often, unflattering to me).

I think the only way that we'd figure out how we'd work together, would be to ... you know ... work together ... for a while.

Re: How to work with me

#172
Good, like I don’t have enough complexity to deal with every workday, so I need one more thing to read and consider. No, what I need is quiet and less of everything. When we start working together we will learn how to work together. And I would not take into account your opinions about yourself and how you work, only your deeds. Because something happened which unleashed the power of our imagination. We learned to talk.

Re: How to work with me

#173

Can anyone here give me an honest review of the doc I send people who reach out to me who I don't know? I definitely want to know if this doc comes off as condescending. https://vinay.notion.site/If-you-want-to-work-with-me-at-Loo...

Comes off as very silly and insecure. It seems like it's written purely for you to curate your professional persona and to give people a good impression of yourself. A corporate kool-aid drinking work-a-holics version of a Twitter bio, just needlessly long and self-indulgent. At least Twitter bios are limited in length.

If you actually cared about the recipients of this document it would be half a page or shorter and have bullet points of your biggest weaknesses or eccentricities and other actionable info. You aren't Napoleon, nobody needs to read more than a half page about you, especially when most of what you have to say is meaningless corporate jargon.

Re: How to work with me

#174
post #8

To me, it seems a little condescending to be told how to act toward someone. On some level it is helpful to know your teammates, but on the other hand it can come across as self centered, like you think you're special and require special instructions for interacting with. I'm sure you have good intentions in creating this, but if someone gave this to me I would instantly thing "oh man this person is going to be high…

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You are judging someone’s life and directing them to find Jesus solely because their blog doesn’t communicate how rich their life is? JFC, I am so glad that I don’t share anything of myself in this space.

Re: How to work with me

#175

If I received this I would do my best to steer clear of this person. Hopefully you put at least as much effort into acquiring social skills as telling people exactly how to communicate with you.

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Re: How to work with me

#176
To me, a lot of this reads more like some sort of "Team/Company Values and Culture" document than the user manual of a single individual.

Things like "Default to action" are pretty dependent on team/company culture and what you're working on. Your coworkers won't start defaulting to action just because you prefer it if their boss, their boss' boss, etc prefer cautious consideration. There's nothing wrong with preferring to work somewhere with a "default to action" culture, but presumably by the time someone is reading this you've already made the decision that the culture is a good fit for you. (Ditto for "There’s life beyond work". If that isn't the existing culture, then as a reader all it tells me is that you choose to work somewhere that doesn't share your values and we may be in for a bumpy ride.)

Similarly, the way it's written now "Mind the channel" reads like a mandate about team/company norms and culture. Despite being under the heading of "How to efficiently work and communicate with me", rather than explaining which channels of communication you prefer in which contexts, it makes a broad statement about what the reader should consider when communicating with anyone. IMO guidance on how to communicate with others in general, rather than you specifically, belongs in a team handbook and not your personal user manual.

"Don’t give clues" on the other hand is a good example of something that does seem to belong in a user manual. It explains something about you and tells the reader how to more effectively communicate with you. It doesn't make broad generalizations about how they should communicate with others in general.

In the end, I wonder whether this should be split into multiple documents - maybe a user manual (for people working with you) and a separate list of what's important to you in a working environment and company culture (for yourself when job hunting)?

In any case, for the user manual I think it would help to replace broad platitudes and decrees with statements focused on you. If a statement would make sense in a team handbook or similar, I think that's a sign that it may come across as inappropriate/presumptuous in your personal user manual.

Re: How to work with me

#177
Really surprised that a journalist like you doesn't understand the need for brevity. 98% of this "how to work with me" is actually "i like talking about myself". There is like half a sentence of semi-useful (probably aspirational) info on you and then paragraphs of philosophical meandering.

At least Patrick Bateman stuck with a single business card, you had to go and write a whole life story and print it on your digital business card that you presumably shove down everyone's throats.

Consider deleting immediately, i would never work with someone who wrote something like this. Cheers.

Re: How to work with me

#178

Aside from the reflexive “yikes, dude” that this gives me, I wouldn’t trust the content itself. A manual written by someone who’s worked with you for years would be far more valuable. But my first impression of a person who hands me something like this is going to be “what past interpersonal disasters have you wrought that led you to put time into something like this?” …case in point is a current coworker of mine, wh…

The title is off-putting but I can't fault the text.

In reference to your coworker, at least you can suggest to him where his behaviour deviates from his ideal? Seems much better than starting from scratch.

Re: How to work with me

#179
One of my favourites is

> Don’t give clues: I sometimes miss clues, many people do. Don’t give clues. Tell me what you need.

So important when we're context switching all the time.

Re: How to work with me

#180
This is like those personal READMEs, they try to present some sort of predictability for a human, who typically is inconsistent and emotional, coloured by what the strive to be or how they see themselves vs. the reality.

This document is written for the author and don't provide much value to the reader.

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