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> The problem is: how do you run a business that has offices and physical assets in , without being at least partially beholden to the government? The problem with this kind of Mad Libs argument is that it falsely implies the substitutions are equivalent when they're not. Also your quote shears away the context of the original statement that made it meaningful.
Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC
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Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC
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I can't speak to its inadequacy, but I can point out that it is obviously unethical for Microsoft to sell a broken operating system and then separately profit from a product that mitigates part of what is broken in Windows. Microsoft now has no incentive to fix Windows, and, in fact, benefits from not fixing it. Seems to me that is a job for Linux, anyway, and this one time Linux fell down on the job and failed utter…
That's not really a fair critique. Maybe if this was the year 2000. But modern 'antivirus' isn't about fixing a poorly designed OS. It looks for known malware signatures, detects suspicious activity in other software, and so forth. You need that kind of thing on any platform, especially ones that run a web browser and/or let users install the software of their choice. All of that functionality is available in the fre…
This is the boilerplate response to the valid complaint that Windows security is a nightmare. While in theory, other platforms (Linux, BSDs, and idk, OS/400, OS/2, etc.) technically can get infected by viruses, in practice, infection on these platforms would be a vanishingly rare oddity, even compared to the also incredibly rare cases of intrusion.
That said, every major non-Windows platform in its default install configuration is inherently more secure than a Windows system that has had all of its known default security issues addressed, even those beyond what Windows Defender provides. Windows is not simply a more attractive target for malware authors because it is a more popular platform with a larger install base, it is a more popular target because it is inherently insecure, and we know it is inherently insecure because it would be foolish for anyone to run Windows and access the WWW without first addressing its security issues.
It is possible, and likely even probable, that someone could use an unhardened, non-Windows system in its default install configuration for ordinary personal computing for years without ever experiencing the security threats that online Windows users face on a minute by minute basis.
But to be fair to Windows, it honestly often is a turnkey solution to whatever office computing needs there be, and without it, information security, as an area of study, as a profession, and as an industry, would not even exist as we know it today. The fact of the matter is that Windows' security issues (and other issues Windows exhibits unrelated to security) creates jobs, and this can not be ignored. Arguably, the jobs Windows creates are more important than the security issues it introduces. Also, to be fair, without C, C++, .NET, Python, Perl, and JavaScript, Windows would probably be 90% more secure, so it is not all Microsoft's fault and, in a sense, some of the problem is beyond their control.
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Is there an equivalent of the EFF or ACLU in Russia?
If there was, it's been shut down (e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memorial_(society)#Intimidatio...).
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It is not only not banned but "found a compromise" and agreed to co-operate with FSB according to Russian MP (google translated article from tjournal.ru): https://tjournal-ru.translate.goog/news/562296-durov-nashel-...
According to Russian Minister of Foreign Affairs, Russia has no intention to invade Ukraine
Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC
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> The problem is: how do you run a business that has offices and physical assets in , without being at least partially beholden to the government? The problem with this kind of Mad Libs argument is that it falsely implies the substitutions are equivalent when they're not. Also your quote shears away the context of the original statement that made it meaningful.
Please explain how they are not equivalent. Just because two governments are on good terms or are in some kind of partnership does not guarantee that one or the other will not take actions that benefit only them. What am I missing here?
Press. Political competition. Courts. Broadly, the rule of law.
Nobody is perfect at any of these. But if the FSB wants a code change in Kaspersky, they're getting that code change. There is no independent press to report it. No opposition incentivized to call them out on it. No court in which they could lose.
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> The problem is: how do you run a business that has offices and physical assets in , without being at least partially beholden to the government? The problem with this kind of Mad Libs argument is that it falsely implies the substitutions are equivalent when they're not. Also your quote shears away the context of the original statement that made it meaningful.
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You can't be more wrong when you say "just like Russia". It is not even close. The killings of journalists, repressions... The last independent newspaper has to close its activity because it is not possible anymore to report truth while complying to the Russian laws: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/28/russias-novaya-gaze... All this with Russian government/president approval rating of 70%.
Without independent media, how can we trust the approval rating is accurate?
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Please explain how they are not equivalent. Just because two governments are on good terms or are in some kind of partnership does not guarantee that one or the other will not take actions that benefit only them. What am I missing here?
> explain how they are not equivalent Press. Political competition. Courts. Broadly, the rule of law. Nobody is perfect at any of these. But if the FSB wants a code change in Kaspersky, they're getting that code change. There is no independent press to report it. No opposition incentivized to call them out on it. No court in which they could lose.
> Press. Political competition. Courts. Broadly, the rule of law.
Exactly. Mad-libs "arguments" typically boil down to an invitation to ignore salient differences (which the structure cannot call attention to), make a superficial comparison, and finally arrive at a false equivalency.
Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC
#239Ok, let's cut the crap. Is Kaspersky a dirtbag or not? I suspect not, but it is an unfortunate accident he was born in and runs his company from Russia, the government of which is a dirtbag, so, correct me if I am wrong, Kaspersky must be a dirtbag by association, but especially for discovering Stuxnet. Believable, but I think the real reasons Kaspersky is persona non grata is due to having discovered Stuxnet, and Ka…
When was Kasepersky ever considered a dirtbag? That company has written a lot of technically in-depth security reports over various threats for a long time. AFAIK it's a (relatively) honest business, though sadly the target of American russophobia
When you are entering a cold war with Russia, it's not Russophobia, it's common sense to not allow a potential state actor to have root access to millions of devices in your country.
Also, Kaspersky was literally a former KGB
> At the age of 16, Kaspersky entered a five-year program with The Technical Faculty of the KGB Higher School,[15] which prepared intelligence officers for the Russian military and KGB.[7][8] He graduated in 1987[15] with a degree in mathematical engineering and computer technology.[4][8] After graduating college, Kaspersky served the Soviet military intelligence service [6] as a software engineer.[2][10] He met his first wife Natalya Kaspersky at Severskoye, a KGB vacation resort, in 1987.[2]