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Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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When was Kasepersky ever considered a dirtbag? That company has written a lot of technically in-depth security reports over various threats for a long time. AFAIK it's a (relatively) honest business, though sadly the target of American russophobia

I think there was an incident in which some NSA contractor had Kaspersky installed in their workstation and the heuristic caught up NSA tools https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/oct/26/kaspersky...

They did the right thing - finding suspiciously malicious code is their job. Not their fault the user was an idiot, spooks PEBKAC is still PEBKAC.

Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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In a way I get it. I also agree with it. Europe should also try to reduce dependancy on American tech products for the scenario when the US becomes hostile towards Europe. A bit unlikely now, but you never know.

Agreed that Europe should reduce dependency on US tech product. Among the reasons is how the US govt has been caught spying on allies multiple times. Which is sad but a clear sense of ethics missing in the US govt (along with a long list of others).

> A bit unlikely now, but you never know. On the timeline we exist, it's a possibility!

Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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So... let's say a person still wanted to use an Antivirus product anyways, despite not really trusting them due to reasons like this article here; or anything you can say about Norton, etc, etc. What would you all suggest? Aside from McAfee, Norton and of course Kaspersky. I'm all ears. Some helpful hints though might be: 1. I don't want it giving me pop-ups constantly to remind me of a sale they are having. 2. It ca…

We've been running ESET Nod32 for over a decade.

Its strength is that it uses very low memory and CPU cycles due to the way it is built.

It ticks all the boxes you've given above.

Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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Is there any point in using antivirus these days anyway? I'm open to being wrong here, but I'm under the impression that antivirus exists only to tick boxes in outdated security compliance checklists. How big of a threat are viruses compared to, say, rogue antivirus products themselves?

Current AV software bloatware is a scourge on the world.

I spent about 30 minutes this weekend helping my sister-in-law debug a slow internet. My observations were that attempting to do anything resulted in about a 5-10 second pause, and general sluggish response when trying to anything online. I disabled anti-virus, etc. and it was still slow. I tried Edge and everything was super-fast.

Digging further, the issue was McAfee Safe Search (powered by Yahoo). It was singlehandedly adding 5-10 second lag on every mouse click and character typed in the browser. Disabling and blocking that resolved everything.

Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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This may work some of the time, but expect "I need $windows_program" to foul your chances of this. It may not always be legitimate, but telling heavy-duty transport mechanics they can't have Cummins or Bendix software (for engines and brakes) to help them diagnose, when that's the only output for troubleshooting supported by the OEM, will not end well.

This makes me thing: When we are going to see those Windows software directly on the web? For me makes a lot of sense being able to sell a software subscription instead of a one time product sell, and for the other hand making available to use in any device in the world with internet connection. This also can be done like Chrome apps (like Docs) or some Electron apps (like Spotify), where you can use content without…

> For a mechanic who is looking for the amount of torque needed on a bolt this could be perfectly viable, for example.

We're going to start talking past each other pretty quickly if you think this is worthy of a (software) service subscription. Torque specs belong in a manual (ideally on corporate intra-net or paper); I'm talking about when the engine is deeply unhappy, and you need more to go on than a driver reporting a yellow check light.

In the case of the latter, I'd say it absolutely deserves to be a 20 year old program (which tend to be lighter) that runs entirely offline. The last thing any garage wants to do is chase hardware requirements or search for a wifi signal either out in the yard, or in between hoists, lifts, and miscelleaneous heavy equipment / tooling - all of which tend to trash a wifi signal.

Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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Which is the entire point of their argument? The Russian government is objectively worse by any honest metric.

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Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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Ok, let's cut the crap. Is Kaspersky a dirtbag or not? I suspect not, but it is an unfortunate accident he was born in and runs his company from Russia, the government of which is a dirtbag, so, correct me if I am wrong, Kaspersky must be a dirtbag by association, but especially for discovering Stuxnet. Believable, but I think the real reasons Kaspersky is persona non grata is due to having discovered Stuxnet, and Ka…

When was Kasepersky ever considered a dirtbag? That company has written a lot of technically in-depth security reports over various threats for a long time. AFAIK it's a (relatively) honest business, though sadly the target of American russophobia

The concern isn't Kaspersky being a dirtbag, it's Putin legally mandating they become a dirtbag. That's how nation states and wars work.

In fact, there's a similar concern that the EU has with the US. The US's CLOUD Act forces American tech companies to comply with US legal subpoenas in foreign jurisdictions, which means that said tech companies cannot also comply with GDPR data export rules. Hence, it's illegal to include US services on EU websites[0] until and unless the US either agrees to pass GDPR into US law (so that exported EU data is still protected) or repeals the CLOUD Act (so that localized EU data is legally untouchable by the FBI or CIA).

The idea that we can treat a company as wholly separate from it's host nation is more of a legal fiction than anything else. It's not, in and of itself, russophobia. If the person running Kaspersky was trying to, say, flee Russia; and people said he couldnt't be trusted, then that would be russophobia.

[0] Note: It is still legal for EU citizens to use those US services directly. This only covers data export by EU companies to third-parties.

Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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Is there any point in using antivirus these days anyway? I'm open to being wrong here, but I'm under the impression that antivirus exists only to tick boxes in outdated security compliance checklists. How big of a threat are viruses compared to, say, rogue antivirus products themselves?

It surprises me how much many posters on Hacker News seem to be against using any sort of AV software - not even the built in Defender solution in Windows, if you have to use the OS for whatever reason, but i often see the sentiment expressed that supposedly the entire class of software is useless. What happened to defense in depth with all of the layers you can introduce? Surely if you run a Linux server, you might…

Part of this surely is that most apps are now delivered in the browser, so increasingly windows is a terminal to run chrome or edge.
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