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Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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So... let's say a person still wanted to use an Antivirus product anyways, despite not really trusting them due to reasons like this article here; or anything you can say about Norton, etc, etc. What would you all suggest? Aside from McAfee, Norton and of course Kaspersky. I'm all ears. Some helpful hints though might be: 1. I don't want it giving me pop-ups constantly to remind me of a sale they are having. 2. It ca…

Malwarebytes?

Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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Plenty of legit potential concerns.. Russian govt could "nationalize" Kaspersky at any moment and push rogue updates.

Shouldnt i have the same concerns with software from the US? You dont really have to nationalize to force devs to push malicious code (looking at you Australia)

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Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

#203

So... let's say a person still wanted to use an Antivirus product anyways, despite not really trusting them due to reasons like this article here; or anything you can say about Norton, etc, etc. What would you all suggest? Aside from McAfee, Norton and of course Kaspersky. I'm all ears. Some helpful hints though might be: 1. I don't want it giving me pop-ups constantly to remind me of a sale they are having. 2. It ca…

Just use what comes with microsoft. If you want another layer of scanning then install Malwarebytes. Those two should be plenty for anybody. Also set their DNS to use something that blocks known malware sites (quad 9 is what I use).

Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

#204

Is there any point in using antivirus these days anyway? I'm open to being wrong here, but I'm under the impression that antivirus exists only to tick boxes in outdated security compliance checklists. How big of a threat are viruses compared to, say, rogue antivirus products themselves?

It surprises me how much many posters on Hacker News seem to be against using any sort of AV software - not even the built in Defender solution in Windows, if you have to use the OS for whatever reason, but i often see the sentiment expressed that supposedly the entire class of software is useless. What happened to defense in depth with all of the layers you can introduce? Surely if you run a Linux server, you might…

tptacek could probably weigh in with a much better explanation.

The tradeoff for having AV is having a giant application in admin land which increases the surface area available for an attack. Combine this with the that fact you don't get much protection because a virus can just be modified until the AV doesn't detect it and AV's just aren't worth it. This trade off made sense 20 years ago because OS's were less secure so you were increasing your surface area by relatively less than you are now.

Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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No. You need to understand what you are comparing to. The question is comparing US and Russia. No. It’s not the same. But you turned this question into comparing US to perfection. Yes, you are right. US is not perfection. But there is a big difference between 70 to 10, even both are not 100. What Snowden revealed does not make 70 to 10. If you think that way, you don’t understand how bad an authoritarian regime is.

I put both russia and us at 10. Why would I rate it any better, given its past?

In the US the press can be openly antagonistic toward the government without reprisal beyond maybe having a WH press-core pass tossed. This provides a path for whistleblowers.

Could the Russian press behave toward Putin as the US press toward Trump? If so, then you can have your 10s.

Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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Which is the entire point of their argument? The Russian government is objectively worse by any honest metric.

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Is there an equivalent of the EFF or ACLU in Russia?

Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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Russia can do it without any backlash from their citizens. U.S. can't do it to their own citizens without backlash. Differences in representation of population means different incentives.

The only backlash I saw is the backlash to snowden from its own country.

That is just silly, and has to be said in bad faith. Are you serious?

Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

#210

In a way I get it. I also agree with it. Europe should also try to reduce dependancy on American tech products for the scenario when the US becomes hostile towards Europe. A bit unlikely now, but you never know.

Not just europe. Europe makes the most sense because europe is the wealthiest region on earth and has the ability to fund its own tech industry. Europe did it for aerospace ( Airbus ), but why they aren't doing it for something far more important than planes is beyond me. But China, India, Japan, etc should all be developing their own tech spheres. I can't believe that any major country allows Windows, Facebook, Google, Apple, etc in their nation. At the very least ban it until they develop their own local competitors first. Not only would this be good for China, India, Japan, EU, etc, it would also be good for tech and the rest of the world since they will have more options. It's amazing how useless so much of the world's leadership are.
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