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Re: Killed by Microsoft

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Post by DimmieMan »

zimpenfish wrote: post #209
ineptech wrote: post #82

Not killed exactly, but I hate what they've done to Minecraft. It used to be something kind of unique, a game experience that was universal among kids. They paid $1.6B to gate it behind a microsoft.com account and force schoolkids and school districts in to the MS ecosystem.

Plus the mob votes - stupid nonsense idea. You're the game devs, dev the game. Don't ask an easily influenced bunch of people (hello glow squid) for their opinions. (I will concede that Caves & Cliffs is finally going in the right direction but the Java client still sucks re: optimisation and it'd be nice if they put some effort into that instead of the PR puffs of mob votes, etc.)

There's some significant gains from available mods and while they couldn't hire one of the most prolific modders in that space I can't imagine it would be insurmountably difficult to hire someone with the relevant JVM or OpenGL expertise to really clean up the game.

If they could implement some of the low hanging fruit that would be a fantastic step but Mojang seemingly have zero desire to seriously tackle performance.

Re: Killed by Microsoft

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Post by selcuka »

Rebelgecko wrote: post #246
syshum wrote: post #220

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No... Sorry just no Nexus line was an Affordable/ value reference implantation of Android Pixel is an overpriced atrocity marketing platform for Google. Pixel IS NOT a replacement for Nexus

I think the Nexus 6 cost $50 more than the Pixel 6 does, even before you take inflation into account

Might be true for Nexus 6, but Nexus 4 was from $299 at launch and had flagship specs. Nexus 5 was $399, again an affordable phone.

Re: Killed by Microsoft

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Post by CactusOnFire »

chrisdirkis wrote: post #214
johnnyanmac wrote: post #147

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>Kinect => It's not dead ??? Is it alive? It very much has an immensely passionate community of students and hobbyists using it in ways well past its intended use (e.g. it's some of the cheapest mocap hardware you can buy). But I don't think you've been able to officially purchase one for 4+ years now. Hard to call that "alive" in a business sense. Honestly a real shame that Xbox hasn't pivoted it into some other tea…

The Azure Kinect was released as a successor for the research and business applications[1]. I know one roboticist who has used one, but no one aside from that. Definitely dead as a consumer gaming device, but a product evolving towards a discovered usecase is a surprisingly happy outcome from MS. [1] https://azure.microsoft.com/en-au/services/kinect-dk/

When I saw "Killed by google" I came out of it with a general sentiment about how google can't commit to a specific roadmap.

After seeing this site and then the comments here, I am coming out of this with the general sentiment that Microsoft is genuinely thoughtful about addressing end-of-life products.

Re: Killed by Microsoft

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Post by chipsa »

pishpash wrote: post #212
bscphil wrote: post #172

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I think you're lashing out at Google for a variety of different (and very good!) reasons, but they're outside the range of my comment. People getting banned from Google services because of broken automation is bad, of course, but it has nothing to do with the issue of whether migration paths are provided when services are sunsetted at Google. My point is that for Google's core services, they generally due try to migr…

That's a shallow distinction. The constant migration is because internally teams are abandoning projects. Whether another team picks up a similar project is a secondary process, and may not happen, then you have a killed product. This is a completely different process than a company deciding to go in a different business direction or making a technical decision to change. Eventually these "core products" will be aban…

Only things I trust google to keep up at this point is stuff that makes them lots of money(ads) or that they use massively internally(Gmail)

Re: Killed by Microsoft

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Post by spaetzleesser »

mnd999 wrote: post #78
Kuinox wrote: post #50

Contrary to Google, Microsoft often provide a migration path to another of their service covering the same usecases. Examples: Skype For Business => Teams. Microsoft Edge => Chromium Edge. Windows 10 IoT Core => It's not dead ??? Office Viewer => Web Based Office Kinect => It's not dead ??? Microsoft Anti-Virus for Windows => Windows Defender Come on, microsoft has big flaws but backward compat/keeping old product al…

Teams is unbelievably shit though. It’s like they don’t even care.

I feel Teams is thrown together by a few interns who are learning product development and trying to be "agile".

Re: Killed by Microsoft

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Post by spaetzleesser »

zapnuk wrote: post #111
mnd999 wrote: post #78

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Teams is unbelievably shit though. It’s like they don’t even care.

Yes! Teams is by far the worst "popular" software i've ever used. It's so bad that eventhough most businesses depend on teams, they, as well as everyone else, would be better off if teams suddenly disappears from one day to another. edit: Just a few things that annoy me basically on a daily basis: - The status isn't always up to date. Sometimes it takes minutes to you or your contacts to show the correct status. - It…

The search is just horrible. also: how can you ship a Wiki feature that's not searchable? That's the whole point of a wiki.

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Post by julianlam »

harry8 wrote: post #103
julianlam wrote: post #41

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> If they had made it an open platform and allowed users to install Linux, I believe it would have taken over the world. Didn't they, though? With Maemo and later Meego (though maybe I have that swapped)? As it turns out the developer power just isn't there. That's not to say that that wouldn't be the case now, but at least back then, it wasn't able to survive. I was so incredibly excited for my Nokia N900, but at th…

Wut? N900 was the best, most reliable, highest quality and most polished phone I have ever owned. It's not even close. How they f.ed that up is beyond me.

I've heard such glowing reviews of the N900, that it makes me wonder whether I have a lemon.

Towards the end of its life with me, it would soft reboot whenever someone called me.

Re: Killed by Microsoft

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Post by jamesfinlayson »

johnnyanmac wrote: post #147
Kuinox wrote: post #50

Contrary to Google, Microsoft often provide a migration path to another of their service covering the same usecases. Examples: Skype For Business => Teams. Microsoft Edge => Chromium Edge. Windows 10 IoT Core => It's not dead ??? Office Viewer => Web Based Office Kinect => It's not dead ??? Microsoft Anti-Virus for Windows => Windows Defender Come on, microsoft has big flaws but backward compat/keeping old product al…

>Kinect => It's not dead ??? Is it alive? It very much has an immensely passionate community of students and hobbyists using it in ways well past its intended use (e.g. it's some of the cheapest mocap hardware you can buy). But I don't think you've been able to officially purchase one for 4+ years now. Hard to call that "alive" in a business sense. Honestly a real shame that Xbox hasn't pivoted it into some other tea…

I've seen Kinects used at an airport for scanning luggage size.

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Post by julianlam »

zokier wrote: post #199
harry8 wrote: post #103

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Wut? N900 was the best, most reliable, highest quality and most polished phone I have ever owned. It's not even close. How they f.ed that up is beyond me.

N900 was really cool device in many ways, but polished or reliable it definitely was not; when I had one, I tended to carry a feature phone along with it because N900 was so ridiculously buggy and unreliable.

Hey, me too! I got myself a Huawei feature phone, probably their first offering in the North American market.

It blows my mind you can buy Huawei phones for $1000+. The feature phone I bought for $50 literally disintegrated in my hands after a couple months of use.

Re: Killed by Microsoft

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Post by fomine3 »

zapnuk wrote: post #111
mnd999 wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Teams is unbelievably shit though. It’s like they don’t even care.

Yes! Teams is by far the worst "popular" software i've ever used. It's so bad that eventhough most businesses depend on teams, they, as well as everyone else, would be better off if teams suddenly disappears from one day to another. edit: Just a few things that annoy me basically on a daily basis: - The status isn't always up to date. Sometimes it takes minutes to you or your contacts to show the correct status. - It…

Select text and Ctrl+C without release mouse button always make me rage. It copies entire message rather than selected text. I've never seen this behavior on windows apps.
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