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Birth control pill for men could begin human trials later this year

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Re: Birth control pill for men could begin human trials later this year

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Then you didn't look hard enough.

Care to help me with a link?

Sorry, diving deep into the manosphere is not exactly lining up with my self care goals, but I'm sure you're not as bad at using Google as you'd let me to believe.

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Are they known for the opposite?

“The No. 1 objective is preservation of capital,” https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/economy/2021/6/21/bill-and-mel... Perhaps the marketing is good

That's typical for foundations that operate along the lines of an endowment. The idea is that they want to be able to continue the sustain and grow their philanthropy forever and they can't do that if they run out of money.

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The state should pay the child support equivalent to help the child in a case like this.

With whose taxes, exactly?

I don't know, maybe the military could spare 0.1% of its hundreds of billions. Why do taxes become a problem when someone proposes using them for something practical that benefits society, rather than making Boeing richer?

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Care to help me with a link?

Sorry, diving deep into the manosphere is not exactly lining up with my self care goals, but I'm sure you're not as bad at using Google as you'd let me to believe.

If in needs a deep dive into some weird niche of the internet then my point has been proven. Catching man with the use of a pregnancy gives whole pages of google results with simplest of searches.

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IMO that’s a similar tradeoff as condoms, though probably more cost-effective.

Strictly by pregnancy risk, I believe anal sex is far less likely to result in pregnancy than condom use. And that's only compared to perfect condom use every time, which is not what I'd consider realistic.

I’m not talking about pregnancy risk, which IMO is acceptably low in either case.

“Perfect condom use every time” is unrealistic on a population level, but I wonder how much of that generality is a hedge against the general stupidity and incompetence of large parts of the population. It’s probably more realistic for the type of people who can reliably pull off your technique.

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“The No. 1 objective is preservation of capital,” https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/economy/2021/6/21/bill-and-mel... Perhaps the marketing is good

That's typical for foundations that operate along the lines of an endowment. The idea is that they want to be able to continue the sustain and grow their philanthropy forever and they can't do that if they run out of money.

They invest in things that drive revenue for them. Including Crispr, WHO, farm land, fake meat, vaccines, etc.

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The legal system is not just in all edge cases. This is known. The good news is that bad precedents can be overturned.

This is problem with how current statues are written for child support. This would take legislative action at least it looks that way in the USA for most states with a cursory google. Most statues allow courts to have some discretion to handle edge cases. This is not the case with child support. That's why I said it's bad public policy, and there will be more people victimized by these poorly written laws.

Sure. Needs work. When you say you "hate this mentality" it sounds like you want to toss out the entire legal concept. In further discussion, you're hyperfocused on some edge cases. I agree, those edge cases need work... but you haven't convinced me that the entire concept is unworkable.

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I don't understand this take. If a woman doesn't want a kid she can get an abortion. If a man doesn't want a kid he better hope the woman feels the same or he is screwed. Women have almost all the power in this situation.

I once came across this statement, which has stuck with me: “All unwanted pregnancies are the result of irresponsible ejaculations.” And I haven’t been able to figure a situation that refutes that. The idea that a woman somehow has power in this situation misrepresents power dynamics and the reality of gender inequality in our society. If men don’t want a kid, or don’t want to risk a pregnancy, it is not difficult to…

I can think of four quite trivially. The condom fails. The IUD fails. Your wife forgets to take the pill. Your girlfriend lies about being on the pill.

Not only is it an incredibly callous take devoid of empathy, it is wrong. It is like telling a woman if you didn't want to get pregnant you shouldn't have had sex.

Re: Birth control pill for men could begin human trials later this year

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> Abortion as soon as you discover you're pregnant is just a pill and quite easy. You mean the intentional killing of a human being is "easy", I read this and I know society is doomed.

Mifepristone (the abortion pill) only works up to the first 12 weeks of pregnancy. All scientific evidence suggests the nervous system is not developed enough to experience anything resembling consciousness or to feel pain until 20 weeks at the earliest. Before that point, the fetus is just a cluster of cells. Brains are what make us human.

> All scientific evidence suggests the nervous system is not developed enough to experience anything resembling consciousness or to feel pain until 20 weeks at the earliest.

Bold claim with no data to back it up and yet a cursory search on Google shows how false your claim is:

1. https://flo.health/pregnancy/pregnancy-health/fetal-developm.... 2. https://www.whattoexpect.com/pregnancy/fetal-development/fet...

Is feeling pain or being conscience the standard upon which we determine the worth of someones life? If yes then please head over to your nearest hospital and pull the plug on all the comatose patients.

Re: Birth control pill for men could begin human trials later this year

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> Abortion as soon as you discover you're pregnant is just a pill and quite easy. You mean the intentional killing of a human being is "easy", I read this and I know society is doomed.

We've been killing each other for thousands of years for far more trivial reasons than getting 18 years of financial obligations.

>We've been killing each other for thousands of years for far more trivial reasons than getting 18 years of financial obligations.

Yes we have, and the repercussions of those acts are still being felt to this day with calls for justice, reducing human worth to purely a "financial obligation" to be avoided at all costs makes us lower than beasts roaming the Serengeti

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