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Birth control pill for men could begin human trials later this year

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Re: Birth control pill for men could begin human trials later this year

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The article doesn’t explain what’s wrong with condoms. Edit: lol didn’t realize this was just a controversial question

Condoms is still the better alternative if you dont know the person yet, it also protects against diseases, something these things dont do, nothing beats a good old condom :P

Re: Birth control pill for men could begin human trials later this year

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> reversible But requires a visit to the doctor. While a pill can simply be stopped at any time to achieve a pregnancy. In my opinion, the idea of eating a "magic pills" is easier to swallow than the idea of "injecting cement into a pipe". One adds to your body, the other modifies it (if ever slihtly).

I know several women who have used IUDs or implanted birth control. Vasalgel is like an IUD except its not a painful procedure. If a man wants to take a pill that tampers with his bodies normal biological functions go ahead, but I'd prefer a non painful approach that I can use for 5 years without thinking about it and get it set up and removed in maybe 2 hours total?

Especially since hormones control a ton of different bodily functions, and tampering with them invites a load of physiological and psychological side effects, while it's easier to understand the effects of a mechanical, albeit crude, approach like this gel.

Re: Birth control pill for men could begin human trials later this year

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Straight man here. I have a solution to all this and it's the same solution many (though my understanding not all) gay men practice: anal sex. It's all my wife and I do together. No pill needed! (Practice safe sex.)

IMO that’s a similar tradeoff as condoms, though probably more cost-effective.

Strictly by pregnancy risk, I believe anal sex is far less likely to result in pregnancy than condom use. And that's only compared to perfect condom use every time, which is not what I'd consider realistic.

Re: Birth control pill for men could begin human trials later this year

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> If a woman says "trust me, i'm on the pill" and lies -- they're the ones that get pregnant and likely get stuck raising the kid. Sure the father might be on the hook financially, but if the woman lied about their birth control and went forward with the pregnancy anyway it's not absurd to imagine the father bailing on the situation. And yet there are whole discussion boards dedicated to the subject how to best catch…

Then you didn't look hard enough.

Care to help me with a link?

Re: Birth control pill for men could begin human trials later this year

#125

As a gay man, it's always a lot of fun to watch discussions on birth control for men. I personally have my money on that if/when they do launch for the public, they will be too expensive/difficult to get for basically forever, and women will continue to have to bear the cost of preventing pregnancies. "Men using birth control" would become the "hippie" thing to do that you will only see people in LA/NY do. I am very…

As another gay man, I cannot help but compare the hypothetical case of a male birth control pill and the fast expansion of PrEP.

Extrapolating from that I would guess that saving unwanted pregnancies will make most governments and healthcare systems give male birth control for very cheap, which will cause an increase in STDs and a _big_ decrease in unwanted pregnancies.

Re: Birth control pill for men could begin human trials later this year

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Is the gates foundation known for investing in things that don’t drive revenue for them?

Are they known for the opposite?

“The No. 1 objective is preservation of capital,”

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/economy/2021/6/21/bill-and-mel...

Perhaps the marketing is good

Re: Birth control pill for men could begin human trials later this year

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Two anecdotes pales in comparison to the frequency of deadbeats: less than half of custodial parents* receive the full amount, and almost a third never receive a payment. https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2018/cb18-tps... But ultimately, the child is the most vulnerable party in question. Yes, our legal system is geared to protect them first . It's not the best outcome for either parent. But the kid come…

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You missed the link directly after the first paragraph.

Re: Birth control pill for men could begin human trials later this year

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post #59

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I know several women who have used IUDs or implanted birth control. Vasalgel is like an IUD except its not a painful procedure. If a man wants to take a pill that tampers with his bodies normal biological functions go ahead, but I'd prefer a non painful approach that I can use for 5 years without thinking about it and get it set up and removed in maybe 2 hours total?

Some men prefer to take responsibility of their own biology, if nothing else, to reduce risk of an accidental lifetime of child support.

That's not a response to the parent. Using the gel would still be "taking responsibility of their own biology"

Re: Birth control pill for men could begin human trials later this year

#130
post #88

The thing about Birth Control for Men is that there's no penalty for lying. Men aren't the ones who get pregnant after saying "Of course I'm on the Pill, darling." Women who believe that are as bad/stupid/dumb as the ones who believe a man who says "Trust Me".

It would for sure be an asshole thing to do, but men don't really have anything to gain by getting a woman pregnant right? If anything it's a liability (child support payments)

An abusive man can try to prevent a woman from leaving him by getting her pregnant.

Even if she leaves she'll have to continue to interact with him if he gets partial custody.

He can also threaten to make sure she has her child taken away if she leaves him and threaten to lie to the court about her fitness as a parent.

This works better if the local religion or government is anti abortion.

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