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Which is sad. Should be treated like sexual assault
How would that help the child?
The state should pay the child support equivalent to help the child in a case like this.
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How would that help the child?
I hate this mentality. If the guy should be on the hook it should depend on the circumstances in my opinion. However, that is not the current case.
Yes, I'm a strong believer in personal responsibility, and as a corollary, I believe that men should take responsibility for their effluvia. It takes two to make a child, and the kid cannot be responsible before adulthood. Don't want a baby? Wrap it up, don't have unprotected sex, or coming soon, take a pill.
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#85The thing about Birth Control for Men is that there's no penalty for lying.
Men aren't the ones who get pregnant after saying "Of course I'm on the Pill, darling."
Women who believe that are as bad/stupid/dumb as the ones who believe a man who says "Trust Me".
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#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
I hate this mentality. If the guy should be on the hook it should depend on the circumstances in my opinion. However, that is not the current case.
Yes, I'm a strong believer in personal responsibility, and as a corollary, I believe that men should take responsibility for their effluvia. It takes two to make a child, and the kid cannot be responsible before adulthood. Don't want a baby? Wrap it up, don't have unprotected sex, or coming soon, take a pill.
It's not common, but there are cases like this:
Here a women took a use condom form the trash to get pregnate. https://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/womanshour/2003_07_thu_01.shtml
Women Forged a signature of her ex-husband at an IVF clinic that had his sperm, and he still had to pay child support. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/8544783/Woman-had-tw...
There are numerous other cases like this, not common but it does happen. Lying about birth control is similar, but harder to prove, but even in these blatant examples men are still forced to pay child support. You can't argue this is even just?
Edit: also looking there are some cases just as blatant as those two that have happened in the US. Not common, but it does happen. This is why I think child support should take into account the circumstances. Edges cases are always a thing in real life. A hard rule of a man must always pay child support is not good public policy and unjust to those who are victims of such things.
While lying about birth control is more murky it still should not be something we condone, and if there is proof of it and not some she said he said battle I think family courts should to take that into account.
There also cases of sperm donors ending up on the hook, for child support, not common if the clinic is doing things correctly, but it does happen.
There also cases of underage boys who end up on the hook for child support, despite what happened being statutory rape. This is insane. For example: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/09/02/statut...
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#87What I love about reversible male birth control is that all of the conjecture simply disappears after it becomes available
90% of the comments if this thread simply become comedy
In any case I’m very curious about this Vitamin A solution
Re: Birth control pill for men could begin human trials later this year
#88The thing about Birth Control for Men is that there's no penalty for lying. Men aren't the ones who get pregnant after saying "Of course I'm on the Pill, darling." Women who believe that are as bad/stupid/dumb as the ones who believe a man who says "Trust Me".
It would for sure be an asshole thing to do, but men don't really have anything to gain by getting a woman pregnant right? If anything it's a liability (child support payments)
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#89> experimental compound that blocks proteins from binding to vitamin A, also known as retinoic acid
thoughts? anything we should know about retinoic acid?
Re: Birth control pill for men could begin human trials later this year
#90The thing about Birth Control for Men is that there's no penalty for lying. Men aren't the ones who get pregnant after saying "Of course I'm on the Pill, darling." Women who believe that are as bad/stupid/dumb as the ones who believe a man who says "Trust Me".
The same could be said about women. They get pregnant and are entitled to child support.