Anyone else curious about the ages of the defendants? 59, 73 and 62 years old respectively. Is it harder for the PRC to recruit younger "spies" or are older ones just more reliable?
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#32very light slap on the wrist after murder of Jim Li
https://queenseagle.com/all/2022/3/16/queens-atty-stabbed-to...
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#33No other country has managed to accomplish what CCP has in its coordinated campaign across the globe. Covert: Inflitrate US Congress for potential blackmail - https://www.axios.com/china-spy-california-politicians-9d2df... Infitration of US Higher Ed & Supression - https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/01/16/how-china... Siphon off entire US Government personnel information, Probably to match it against Grindr…
I dunno if the USA is doing similar things but it does feel like we are getting picked apart internally and externally.
Well from a birds eye view of history, the USA, in particular, most definitely deserves to be meddled with in the same way it has for 100 years. But they are also doing a good job themselves in ungracefully losing its empire.
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
That reminds me of COINTELPRO, and how the FBI tried to get MLK to commit suicide by sending him a harassing black mailing letter. It's amazing how states particularly when they have apparatuses that can go rouge or are even actually encouraged by the government like the Stasi were go to ridiculous lengths to harass people they find politically inconvenient.
that is true, but that was more than fifty years ago..
That means the people in charge now were trained by the people doing that stuff 50 years ago
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#35Sometimes I think this sounds conspiratorial, and surely isn't happening. Who has the time or money to pay 5 people to just go around harassing and stalking people for political gain only? Then I remember the story of the lady in East Germany who, after it fell, managed to get the Stasi records that finally proved that yes, they had been stalking her, harassing her, and spying on her. They would do things like wait u…
Any chance you have a source for the bicycle tire story? I'm keen to read more about it (and similar stories).
There are several stories like this at the Stasi Museum[0]. Highly recommend checking it out if you are ever in Berlin. The Jugend Widerstands (Youth Resistance) Museum[1] has some interesting stories about life in the DDR too.
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
Chinese grad students have already copied all university research lab hard drive contents and sent them back to China. One of them admitted to my friend to doing it and being sent to the school by the Chinese military. Chinese grad students are a massive espionage risk, second only to Israeli nationals.
Why Israeli nationals? Israel is an allied country to the US.
Yet they indiscriminately kill around the world and we support their Holy War.
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#37Sometimes I think this sounds conspiratorial, and surely isn't happening. Who has the time or money to pay 5 people to just go around harassing and stalking people for political gain only? Then I remember the story of the lady in East Germany who, after it fell, managed to get the Stasi records that finally proved that yes, they had been stalking her, harassing her, and spying on her. They would do things like wait u…
Any chance you have a source for the bicycle tire story? I'm keen to read more about it (and similar stories).
The East German Police after WWII had a policy of Zersetzung, their type of petty, persistant psychological harassment that disrupted people's lives.
I'm curious, did they stop teaching in school that Zersetzung happened in East Germany in the context of WWII? I was taught in High School about that.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
That reminds me of COINTELPRO, and how the FBI tried to get MLK to commit suicide by sending him a harassing black mailing letter. It's amazing how states particularly when they have apparatuses that can go rouge or are even actually encouraged by the government like the Stasi were go to ridiculous lengths to harass people they find politically inconvenient.
that is true, but that was more than fifty years ago..
If they were able to do it without any repercussions or consequences, why would they ever stop doing it?
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#39Australia a country with a smaller population than Texas has about 50,000 Chinese "spies". They are not James Bond-type spies but informants on other Chinese in Australia. In East Germany, one in five people were informants for the Communists. Canada would have a similar number as well.
Do you have a source for that? Sounds too high to be plausible. With a population of around 25 million, that would mean that 1 out of every 500 people would be an informant.
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#40Australia a country with a smaller population than Texas has about 50,000 Chinese "spies". They are not James Bond-type spies but informants on other Chinese in Australia. In East Germany, one in five people were informants for the Communists. Canada would have a similar number as well.
local Chinese media in NZ is 100% pro CCP, serious downer as I'm an Asian and people automatically assume I side with CCP ideologies. Didn't Australia passed some law on Espionage and Foreign Interference? From what I can tell it greatly subsided public activities over there, we need something like that in NZ to be honest...