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5 Charged with Stalking, Harassing, Spying on US Residents for PRC Secret Police

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Re: 5 Charged with Stalking, Harassing, Spying on US Residents for PRC Secret Police

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Post by pphysch »

qwertyuiop_ wrote: post #6

No other country has managed to accomplish what CCP has in its coordinated campaign across the globe. Covert: Inflitrate US Congress for potential blackmail - https://www.axios.com/china-spy-california-politicians-9d2df... Infitration of US Higher Ed & Supression - https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/01/16/how-china... Siphon off entire US Government personnel information, Probably to match it against Grindr…

> No other country has managed to accomplish what CCP has in its coordinated campaign across the globe.

CCP might be good at this, but this is just laughably wrong. They certainly haven't overthrown anywhere close to as many governments as Washington has since WW2.

Re: 5 Charged with Stalking, Harassing, Spying on US Residents for PRC Secret Police

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Post by vjust »

While there is some potential for over-reach, and a kind of stereotyping of Chinese academics, this is not without basis. A lot of them have abused their welcome, and done actions against USA - all while funded by US taxpayer. The Chinese govt has many people in its pay, some willing, likely most unwilling and coerced. But a spying operation is an offense.

Re: 5 Charged with Stalking, Harassing, Spying on US Residents for PRC Secret Police

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Post by ericmcer »

qwertyuiop_ wrote: post #6

No other country has managed to accomplish what CCP has in its coordinated campaign across the globe. Covert: Inflitrate US Congress for potential blackmail - https://www.axios.com/china-spy-california-politicians-9d2df... Infitration of US Higher Ed & Supression - https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/01/16/how-china... Siphon off entire US Government personnel information, Probably to match it against Grindr…

I dunno if the USA is doing similar things but it does feel like we are getting picked apart internally and externally.

Re: 5 Charged with Stalking, Harassing, Spying on US Residents for PRC Secret Police

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Post by davidb_ »

philovivero wrote: post #4

Sometimes I think this sounds conspiratorial, and surely isn't happening. Who has the time or money to pay 5 people to just go around harassing and stalking people for political gain only? Then I remember the story of the lady in East Germany who, after it fell, managed to get the Stasi records that finally proved that yes, they had been stalking her, harassing her, and spying on her. They would do things like wait u…

Any chance you have a source for the bicycle tire story? I'm keen to read more about it (and similar stories).

Re: 5 Charged with Stalking, Harassing, Spying on US Residents for PRC Secret Police

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Post by InitialLastName »

qwertyuiop_ wrote: post #6

No other country has managed to accomplish what CCP has in its coordinated campaign across the globe. Covert: Inflitrate US Congress for potential blackmail - https://www.axios.com/china-spy-california-politicians-9d2df... Infitration of US Higher Ed & Supression - https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/01/16/how-china... Siphon off entire US Government personnel information, Probably to match it against Grindr…

Somehow, throughout the recent invasion of Ukraine by Russia, the US was able to predict and pre-announce, step by step, the Russian army's plans, moves and goals, at an absurd level of granularity and accuracy.

You only see the news cover the people who get caught.

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Post by redisman »

qwertyuiop_ wrote: post #6

No other country has managed to accomplish what CCP has in its coordinated campaign across the globe. Covert: Inflitrate US Congress for potential blackmail - https://www.axios.com/china-spy-california-politicians-9d2df... Infitration of US Higher Ed & Supression - https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/01/16/how-china... Siphon off entire US Government personnel information, Probably to match it against Grindr…

Why do you think the Five Eyes or Russia for example hasn’t accomplished a similar level of goals?

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Post by noobermin »

orangepurple wrote: post #7
sudden_dystopia wrote: post #3

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Chinese grad students have already copied all university research lab hard drive contents and sent them back to China. One of them admitted to my friend to doing it and being sent to the school by the Chinese military. Chinese grad students are a massive espionage risk, second only to Israeli nationals.

Why Israeli nationals? Israel is an allied country to the US.

Re: 5 Charged with Stalking, Harassing, Spying on US Residents for PRC Secret Police

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Post by aussiegreenie »

Australia a country with a smaller population than Texas has about 50,000 Chinese "spies". They are not James Bond-type spies but informants on other Chinese in Australia. In East Germany, one in five people were informants for the Communists. Canada would have a similar number as well.

Re: 5 Charged with Stalking, Harassing, Spying on US Residents for PRC Secret Police

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Post by dralley »

philovivero wrote: post #4

Sometimes I think this sounds conspiratorial, and surely isn't happening. Who has the time or money to pay 5 people to just go around harassing and stalking people for political gain only? Then I remember the story of the lady in East Germany who, after it fell, managed to get the Stasi records that finally proved that yes, they had been stalking her, harassing her, and spying on her. They would do things like wait u…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1HWNcLDK88&t=5614s
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