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Re: Welcome to Web 3.0

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So far I've yet to see a convincing argument for what "Web 3" is and can offer that we can't currently do without the use of a Blockchain. It all seems to boil down to "it'll cost something to do something", which isn't exactly a convincing argument on its own. The responses to this story read rather like Facebook comments on controversial news articles - there's a bunch of comments claiming the website is a bunch of…

Isn't IPFS (InterPlanetary File System) considered web3? can't you use IFPS without cryptocurrencies? [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InterPlanetary_File_System

There's been kind of two waves of "This is web3". The first was primarily about protocols like IPFS, dat/hyper, ... (2018/19?) and then at some point it got used more and more by blockchain folks, and they kind of dominate the conversation now. What it "actually" is is up in the air and not really defined. (But the blockchain scenario still often involves things like IPFS as underlying components)

Re: Welcome to Web 3.0

#133

This is just a hater hatin, coming up with the worst ways to make web 3.0 look bad. An example of a real value proposition of web 3.0 is spam protection and reduction of fake reviews. Much like how bitcoin itself cannot be counterfeited, utilization of the blockchain enables some guarantees in a digital world of endless copying. The only thing I got from it was that the creator hates crypto bros so much he's willing…

Just with everything with potential revolutionary impact, it will be hated with harsh criticism. We're exactly at that period with web3: haters gonna hate and early adopters will be rewarded.

People don't just hate for the sake of hating. They see flaws and react to them... While some people just tell them not to worry about them because "they will be rewarded".

Re: Welcome to Web 3.0

#134

So far I've yet to see a convincing argument for what "Web 3" is and can offer that we can't currently do without the use of a Blockchain. It all seems to boil down to "it'll cost something to do something", which isn't exactly a convincing argument on its own. The responses to this story read rather like Facebook comments on controversial news articles - there's a bunch of comments claiming the website is a bunch of…

With NFT, blockchain proponents have argued that ticket trading is a really good usecase, and could maybe lessen the grip of the likes of Ticketmaster

I think the last episode of Last Week Tonight really shed light on why Blockchain can't really solve real-world problems like that. The problem isn't a technical problem. It'd be easy to solve the problem of ticked distribution/resale without blockchain if the concert vendors actually wanted. But now Ticketmaster owns most of those, so you can't solve it easily even if blockchains would help anyway. And you really can't solve the problem of scalping without tying tickets/accounts to a verified national ID, which is a political problem.

I think blockchain is potentially a huge detriment to solving real-world problems.. because it tricks smart people into thinking "you apply blockchain, and then all these problems are magically solved", rather than actually working with other people on the actual social, economic and political problems we need to solve to make real progress.

Re: Welcome to Web 3.0

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Isn't IPFS (InterPlanetary File System) considered web3? can't you use IFPS without cryptocurrencies? [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InterPlanetary_File_System

Well kinda. It's complicated. > can't you use IFPS without cryptocurrencies? You can. And you should. Cryptocurrency is a solution in search of a problem. Problem it purports to solve isn't something you can solve via software.

> Problem it purports to solve isn't something you can solve via software.

That problem being sending money wherever you want, which is eminently solvable with software (mostly because it is almost all software everywhere).

Re: Welcome to Web 3.0

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The vehement shilling against anything blockchain related is something I still don't really get. Sure, I get it, you don't like blockchain. But this website would've taken a bit of effort to put together, and for what? To shit on something the author doesn't like? What's the author trying to get out of making something like this?

There seem to be two reasons: - Crypto is destroying the planet (it's not). A lot of people get irrationally mad about anything that causes any damage to the environment these days. Climate change is an incredibly important issue but the activism side of it is filled with a lot of crazy people and they've latched on to 'crypto' as bad when most don't know a thing about it. - Jealousy. A lot of people got very lucky a…

I wouldn't be so adamant about cryptocurrencies crap if they would just do their thing and be quiet about it. But everything ever built by that scene needs to somehow make or cost money in some form or another, and that's a telling sign for me.

Also, most cryptocurrencies in fact do commit towards warming up the planet for no benefit at all. Don't know why you deny this.

Re: Welcome to Web 3.0

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You are curious but you are not able to search for it? Oracle worked on it in the 90s.

Worked != solved.

Worked doesn't imply that they didn't solve it. You can still be CURIOUS and look up the patents :) Just because something is new for you (and lets be clear 14 years and counting isn't new) doesn't mean it's new for everyone.

Re: Welcome to Web 3.0

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Depends on the price. $10-$50 for a standard eth tx surely not. But say the equivalent of ~$0.01, probably yes. This might be enough to disincentive _some_ (a lot of?) spamming (unfortunately it's all theory as no network works like this yet)

Can poor people also participate in the web 3.0? Or is it only for people with extra cash?

Gating using money inevitably means poor people cannot participate. It is quite simply a hard problem to solve (that I feel should not be solved this way). I've always been fond of how Korea does MMO accounts (supposedly): Government ID based, so if you get banned you are gone forever.

Re: Welcome to Web 3.0

#139

This link is inflammatory and does nothing to spark curiosity or useful discussion. It's essentially the opposite of what HN is for.

HN is a place for shilling and propaganda. this "curiosity" thing is a lie, it hasn't been like that for more than 10 years

Re: Welcome to Web 3.0

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post #34

I get that "Web 3.0" is catchy as "Web 2.0" was back in the day but I wish people would stop trying to version "the web". It doesn't make any sense.

Consider it like era's/decades. It doesn't have to be perfectly accurate but it gives you a rough idea of a point in time. When I think 'web 2' I think of Digg, Facebook, social media. At the time it was more of a buzzword but in retrospect it defines that era. It doesn't have anything to do with 'versioning' the web.
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