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Re: Welcome to Web 3.0

#82
post #72

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I... don't? I'm hosting cat photos for friends to view. There are no invariants. There are no rules. It's purely content I'm posting for other people to consume. It's no different than if I printed photos and mailed them to all the people.

Then you're talking about a different problem.

It sounds like you're offering a solution for a non-problem.

Re: Welcome to Web 3.0

#83
"They want to replace the internet we have today with one where it costs money to share a photo with friends or post a comment."

if this is true then "web3" is inevitable.

new paradigms are self evident, self-fulfilling and don't need to be constantly shilled like "web3". its obvious the whole thing is totally contrived and unnecessary.

Re: Welcome to Web 3.0

#84
post #13

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Please explain how blockchain will solve user-hostile UI.

The data is not held hostage by the centralized entities who serve you the UI. If a website turns their UX user-hostile for whatever reason, one can simply build an alternative UI that interacts directly with the distributed data.

Ah yes. Because network effects are not a thing, building an alternative UI is super fast, and the website cannot do the things it does today like obfuscating their data, or regularly changing the data format. This way your website keeps spending its time running after changes, and your two unpaid volunteers will absolutely easily catch up to an army of devs focused on a single product. And of course, copyright and other things will go away. Oh wait, no, that's what cryptobros are pushing for NFTs, that it's online enforcement of copyright. Okay, so the data that is now public (why the fuck would GIANT_COMPANY_A make their very important, very private data public?) but is still owned by its authors, you're going to take that and reformat it, redisplay it, without any license to do so ?

Have a good time at court I guess ?

Re: Welcome to Web 3.0

#85
post #61

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The interesting part is state transitions (mutations). How would your Apache server coordinate mutations to your cat database with other servers when you need to enforce invariants like the maximum number of kittens a cat can have per year?

This is not a problem anyone has ever had. The entire world is running on either no coordinated mutations, or batched mutations that are spreading over time. If you're found not respecting the mutations that my Apache server has done, the only thing that happens is that you get banned or fined. Cryptobros see the world as absolutely unable of trust, when it's ran for millenia on it.

If you’re running Postgres you have this problem and you gave it a centralized solution.

Re: Welcome to Web 3.0

#86
post #57

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Not only that but they're unaware that "Web 3.0" was the semantic web, envisioned by Tim Berners-Lee over a decade ago. The blockchain web is "web3", named after the library in Ethereum. Web 3.0 and web3 are very different ideas.

Tim Berners-Lee ?

Yes, fixed it. Thank you.

Re: Welcome to Web 3.0

#87
post #56

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I'd be curious to hear about any solutions to enforcing invariants on state transitions in a decentralized manner pre 2008.

You are curious but you are not able to search for it? Oracle worked on it in the 90s.

Worked != solved.

Re: Welcome to Web 3.0

#88

This is just a hater hatin, coming up with the worst ways to make web 3.0 look bad. An example of a real value proposition of web 3.0 is spam protection and reduction of fake reviews. Much like how bitcoin itself cannot be counterfeited, utilization of the blockchain enables some guarantees in a digital world of endless copying. The only thing I got from it was that the creator hates crypto bros so much he's willing…

Would you have paid to write this comment? Would someone who has a monetary incentive to comment pay to do so?

Depends on the price. $10-$50 for a standard eth tx surely not. But say the equivalent of ~$0.01, probably yes. This might be enough to disincentive _some_ (a lot of?) spamming (unfortunately it's all theory as no network works like this yet)

Re: Welcome to Web 3.0

#89

This is just a hater hatin, coming up with the worst ways to make web 3.0 look bad. An example of a real value proposition of web 3.0 is spam protection and reduction of fake reviews. Much like how bitcoin itself cannot be counterfeited, utilization of the blockchain enables some guarantees in a digital world of endless copying. The only thing I got from it was that the creator hates crypto bros so much he's willing…

well if you know about proof-of-stake, then you know that he who has the gold makes the rules. it's nothing new. wealth begets wealth.
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