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China's state media buys Meta ads pushing Russia's line on war

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Re: China's state media buys Meta ads pushing Russia's line on war

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post #234

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> proportionally decreasing the urgency of researching them Unless your primary concern is defensive against biowarfare rather than natural outbreaks...which is indeed a priority for military research h.

That's true, but it remains that bioweapon research is distinct from virus research.

I disagree, there is plenty of overlap.

Re: China's state media buys Meta ads pushing Russia's line on war

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> ...and downplay Russia's actions in launching an unprovoked invasion

I would argue it is not "unprovoked". By incorporating Ukraine, NATO will have a direct adjacent border with Russia head to head, and missiles will be placed along the border, right at Russia's doorstep, what a stupid strategy for world peace. Putin has told us over many years it's unacceptable for the Russians. Think when USSR tried to place missiles in Cuba.

Edit: for folks who clearly disagree, I'd like to recommend a speech by John Mearsheimer, which is currently gaining 3M views per day, now at 19M: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4

Re: China's state media buys Meta ads pushing Russia's line on war

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post #274

> ...and downplay Russia's actions in launching an unprovoked invasion I would argue it is not "unprovoked". By incorporating Ukraine, NATO will have a direct adjacent border with Russia head to head, and missiles will be placed along the border, right at Russia's doorstep, what a stupid strategy for world peace. Putin has told us over many years it's unacceptable for the Russians. Think when USSR tried to place miss…

How does Russia annexing Ukraine solve this issue then? Wouldn’t that still be butting our borders up against each other?

Re: China's state media buys Meta ads pushing Russia's line on war

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> the Wuhan Institute of Virology was already engaged in some of the genetic engineering work described in the proposal Sure, but that doesn't point to America it points to China. > “The mail is filled with little envelopes with plasmid dried on to filter paper that scientists routinely send each other,” It seems unlikely the leak happened at the Wuhan post office, but even if it did, how does imply American incompet…

> how does imply American incompetence? 1 million dead people kind of makes it seem an “a priori”

Even if we could blame American incompetence for the 1m death Americans, they can't be blamed for the pandemic as a whole. That does not make sense. The virus started spreading from China to dozens of countries before it even became a pandemic in the US.

Re: China's state media buys Meta ads pushing Russia's line on war

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post #243

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The existence of biolabs is completely genuine. You can read more (from a .gov site) here [1]. They seem to have removed the fact-sheets from the site, but you can still access them on archive.org, like here [2]. The fact sheets don't have anything especially seedy on them but do confirm that the labs were funded by the US Department of Defense, and do work with pathogens. Point being you don't need the quotes. There…

Military veterans here would know that NBC (the DoD’s umbrella acronym for Nuclear, Biological, Chemical) threats and defensive postures against them are constantly ingrained into the individual soldier’s training regimen. It starts from boot camp. Every recruit becomes familiar with the lovely pepper spray gas chamber encounter. NBC is taken very seriously in the training doctrine. It probably stems from the horribl…

>Nuclear, Biological, Chemical threats and defensive postures

The Department of Defense is a misleading name since it spent a large % of its historical budget on offense and invasion. The use of the words 'defensive and defense' are always misleading in the US context and should not be taken literally in my opinion. US history makes this clear.

Re: China's state media buys Meta ads pushing Russia's line on war

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post #28

Eh. Aren't we the part of the world that supports free speech? Let them say what they want.

Free Speech for individuals does not mean that we have an interest in allowing foreign and potentially hostile actors to run propaganda campaigns using the ad targeting machine we have built using social media. They can say what they want and every citizen can do so as well, but we should not allow asymmetric amplification.

Lot of words to say "free speech for me but not for thee"

Re: China's state media buys Meta ads pushing Russia's line on war

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post #34

I don’t know why China is so keen on helping Russia. Is this some kind of godfather deal and they want some massive ROI from Russia once things settle down a bit? Or is this some long-term strategy “against the West”?

China needs oil, minerals, wood and food. Russia has all of these so a good relationship to Russia is a guarantee for access to those things. A weakened Russia might even need "assistance" to keep Siberia - where all those mentioned things are found - safe.

sounds like settlers of catan. What about fish?
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