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The amount of tracking on this page is astounding. Just from the screenshot, I count 9 trackers: Uber Eats' own analytics sc-static.net (Snapchat? whois doesn't reveal anything.) Google Tag Manager Facebook Connect Yahoo TikTok ispot.tv (Some sort of ad management solution.) Hotjar (Behavioural analytics.) Bing
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I think you’re giving Meta a break with best intention operation. I really think web tracking is much more nefarious than you are giving credit to.
I really don’t understand the goal with vague statements like this that can’t even provide even the slightest hint of specifics. What specific data? Even a single example would make this anecdote useful.
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No. This needs to be criminalized. Not liking a good or service is one thing. Having things done to you or your information without consent for the purpose of spying on you is stalking with extra steps. Many of these companies still deprive you of your privacy even without using their services by developing shadow profiles on you.
> This needs to be criminalized Literally criminalised? As in you’ll throw people in jail for putting up a pixel? Made illegal, sure.
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> Hah, if you only had an idea of what the Facebook data faucet looked like in 2007-2017, your hairs would stand. I really don’t understand the goal with vague statements like this that can’t even provide even the slightest hint of specifics. What specific data? Even a single example would make this anecdote useful. Instead it feels more like a brag. “I know something but I’m not telling” but in this case the comment…
I think you’re giving Meta a break with best intention operation. I really think web tracking is much more nefarious than you are giving credit to.
As someone that has spent a sizable amount of my career in ad products, the outrage here is kind of (sadly) funny. A conversion pixel? Hah, if you only had an idea of what the Facebook data faucet looked like in 2007-2017, your hairs would stand. Pretty sure they were breaking all kinds of PII laws.
> Hah, if you only had an idea of what the Facebook data faucet looked like in 2007-2017, your hairs would stand. I really don’t understand the goal with vague statements like this that can’t even provide even the slightest hint of specifics. What specific data? Even a single example would make this anecdote useful. Instead it feels more like a brag. “I know something but I’m not telling” but in this case the comment…
Key points: https://twitter.com/YBenkler/status/1070337233159372806?s=20...
Here was one thread of highlights which is still somewhat readable: https://web.archive.org/web/20181206132832/https://twitter.c...
Germany banned their cross-site data sharing/reciprocity, such as from menstrual cycle-tracking apps which had come to light (maybe separately), in 2019: https://twitter.com/YBenkler/status/1093495901342126080?s=20...
As someone that has spent a sizable amount of my career in ad products, the outrage here is kind of (sadly) funny. A conversion pixel? Hah, if you only had an idea of what the Facebook data faucet looked like in 2007-2017, your hairs would stand. Pretty sure they were breaking all kinds of PII laws.
Well I am ready for my hairs to stand up. What did the data faucet contain?
From memory this has now all been rolled up into cohort demographics and 'look-a-like' audiences so you can no longer break your data down by specific users demographic attributes or target ads by say an email list unless they are already your users (and it's used for specific types of ads; retargeting).
From memory some of the more unsettling breakdown/targets were
- Ethnicity
- Life events
- Politics
- Pages (so other businesses) they had liked
Now they just use the facebook pixel to put you into look a like audiences because they can see you went to the home insurance website and the real estate website (they all have the pixel installed) and make the same broad assumptions we were previously making but on the cohort and not your specific unique identifier.
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Not on the main topic, but is there a way I can get in touch to discuss how you might be able to help us and our Shopify shop?
It's a hard topic. My team mostly does experiments, A/B tests on new merchants to see what nudges leads to better results overall. The reality is we have a lot of ideas and we're trying to get data to figure out those answers. But we don't truly know yet. The hard part (as far as I can tell) is product market fit and finding your customer base. Once that's established, you have some momentum, leading to repeat custom…
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I think you’re giving Meta a break with best intention operation. I really think web tracking is much more nefarious than you are giving credit to.
No one said anything about "best intentions" or "non-nefarious". They said "legal".
Is it a good time and place to mention Tracker Control ? https://trackercontrol.org/