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Last Day of IKEA in Moscow

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Re: Last Day of IKEA in Moscow

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They say every crisis is an opportunity. This could be a great opportunity for Russian owned brands to establish themselves and thrive later when the crisis is hopefully resolved.

Go find some thriving furniture brands in North Korea. Nobody will care about the good furniture while the biggest problem is how to buy food.

Re: Last Day of IKEA in Moscow

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Oh, my God, that 40 miles convoy. A crawling duck, but sadly no Warthogs in sight. It's a shame.

Yes, NATO donating some training and a couple of A-10s would be an interesting move. Obviously it is never going to be that simple.

The Russians showed the 'tactical nuke' card. So NATO won't get involved with more than a few AT Weapons here and there at max.

Lavrov said, they didn't threaten with nukes.That means they did. That creature was bred and selected over decades for such jobs.

Actually I just indulge in fantasies of burning bastards.

Re: Last Day of IKEA in Moscow

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Yes, NATO donating some training and a couple of A-10s would be an interesting move. Obviously it is never going to be that simple.

The Russians showed the 'tactical nuke' card. So NATO won't get involved with more than a few AT Weapons here and there at max. Lavrov said, they didn't threaten with nukes.That means they did. That creature was bred and selected over decades for such jobs. Actually I just indulge in fantasies of burning bastards.

You are not alone in that I think there are quite a few people that would like a little bit of quiet quality time with a certain dictator.

Re: Last Day of IKEA in Moscow

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People from the west may say: well yes, our media is biased also. And that is true, but direction of this bias is different for each media outlet, so by watching something else you can find discrepancies and inconsistencies. While in Russia all tv, radio, newspapers are government controlled, so they put the same fake and propaganda which due to lack of anything else (all blocked) yields brain washing on a whole coun…

Western media bias works by using selective reporting and omission, plus artful mixing of fact and opinion. It doesn’t too often make up outright bare-faced lies like we see coming from the Russian government.

You just do not have media h many cases. You can go to the Poland station and send a YouTube. Can you go to a Russian …

All these rubbish on freedom of speech ignore the key difference. Individual still matters.

Re: Last Day of IKEA in Moscow

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Yes, I’ll just watch something else. https://youtu.be/_fHfgU8oMSo

You don't get it. In the US you can watch something else, despite the oversized influence of media conglomerates.

Not so much... Russian media is getting blocked in some places in the west too. RT was blocked from YouTube and TV in the UK for example.

Re: Last Day of IKEA in Moscow

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Go visit the homepage of this newspaper. It's crazy, there's no clear reference to war or attacks. This article on Ikea is just an attempt to tell the desperation without breaking the censorship law.

I was also surprised by this. I find it absolutely crazy. The reason is that just few days ago the parliament of Russia introduced a law on "fakes about Russian army" with 15 years in prison penalty. What is "fake" is not defined so anyone for any statement about the war could be put in prison. Ah yes, people are also forbidden to call this a war, an agression or an invasion. You may say that there are other outlets…

You wrote everything correct, I just want to explain a little bit for the western audience: “fake” here doesn't mean that facts will be checked. It means: “if you are posting something we don't like - chief editor and some journalists will be jailed”.

And chief editor of this newspaper has this prize: https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/peace/2021/muratov/facts/

Re: Last Day of IKEA in Moscow

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They were told to censor or be sued. They removed any postings of war after that. Novaya Gazeta is a newspaper critical of current Russian affairs.

Sued? Sounds like far worse.

15 years imprisonment to anyone related.

Re: Last Day of IKEA in Moscow

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Provided they are vertically integrated and own the entire supply chain. Otherwise they will find that planes not flying in/out and container ships not delivering will make it hard to import anything at scale. Not that they could pay for goods anyway. Also I suspect China may use its new found leverage to flood the Russian market with their goods.

Would Russia have an advantage in timber/forestry? Russia has almost 4x the forest area, but not sure about felling and organised industry around it. Almost 50% of Russia is forested to China's 23%, though I also found articles about China aggressively reforesting.

It can easily changed as since ancient time china can claim S belong to C via monolgolian empire. When Russia is so dependent on china for everything, do you think chinese empire would just sit and let Russia grab so many lands of theirs from not so ancient unfair treaty.

Mafia families are not rely upon …

Re: Last Day of IKEA in Moscow

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Provided they are vertically integrated and own the entire supply chain. Otherwise they will find that planes not flying in/out and container ships not delivering will make it hard to import anything at scale. Not that they could pay for goods anyway. Also I suspect China may use its new found leverage to flood the Russian market with their goods.

there are plenty of planes flying in and out, container ships delivering, and cross border payments happening, right now.

Container shipping is about to be reduced, Maersk just announced that they would only ship food to Russia going forward. Aviation in Russia might come mostly to a halt. About 500 airplanes are leased and have to be returned within a month to the leasing companies, the rest is running out of spare parts quickly.
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