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Last Day of IKEA in Moscow

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Re: Last Day of IKEA in Moscow

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These photos kind of perfectly sum up just how bizarre the situation is.

Sadly, it seems more russians are concerned about not getting a BILLY than standing up to Putin.

One gets you a bookshelf and the other gets you a jail cell.

Do you really blame them?

Re: Last Day of IKEA in Moscow

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They say every crisis is an opportunity. This could be a great opportunity for Russian owned brands to establish themselves and thrive later when the crisis is hopefully resolved.

Unfortunately (and I mean it) there is barely any precedent for a regime like this turning around and the economy improving. In terms of economy, it's probably going to be downhill from here, companies will enter survival mode and innovation will be minimized. I really hope I'm wrong though :( examples: Iran, North Korea, Venezuela, ...

Putins regime was a massive economic improvement from Yeltsins regime though, which is one reason why he is (was? hard to gauge) so popular.

Also counter examples of more authoritarian regimes having economic resurgences - south korea, taiwan, to lesser extents china and vietnam... I'm sure there's more.

Re: Last Day of IKEA in Moscow

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I admire that Russians seems to be able to accept their fate and hope for a better future. I'm afraid this same scenario in a large American city would be pandemonium.

They have not accepted their fate, at all. They just have no easy way to cheat that fate without getting arrested or imprisoned.

until the LEOs don't get paid.

Then, what ducks do they give? [thank you, spellchecker].

it may turn out to be the Paycheck Revolution (assuming rubles are worth anything within the borders in two weeks).

Re: Last Day of IKEA in Moscow

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Sadly, it seems more russians are concerned about not getting a BILLY than standing up to Putin.

One gets you a bookshelf and the other gets you a jail cell. Do you really blame them?

A jail cell... or a bounty on your head https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31669061

Re: Last Day of IKEA in Moscow

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Go visit the homepage of this newspaper. It's crazy, there's no clear reference to war or attacks. This article on Ikea is just an attempt to tell the desperation without breaking the censorship law.

They were told to censor or be sued. They removed any postings of war after that. Novaya Gazeta is a newspaper critical of current Russian affairs.

Re: Last Day of IKEA in Moscow

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> And frankly said, if the performance of the Russian furniture industry is similar to that of the Russian military, I wouldn' buy a doorstop from them. Russian military doorstops are a dime a dozen right now in Ukraine.

Oh, my God, that 40 miles convoy. A crawling duck, but sadly no Warthogs in sight. It's a shame.

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Re: Last Day of IKEA in Moscow

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Go visit the homepage of this newspaper. It's crazy, there's no clear reference to war or attacks. This article on Ikea is just an attempt to tell the desperation without breaking the censorship law.

I was also surprised by this. I find it absolutely crazy. The reason is that just few days ago the parliament of Russia introduced a law on "fakes about Russian army" with 15 years in prison penalty. What is "fake" is not defined so anyone for any statement about the war could be put in prison. Ah yes, people are also forbidden to call this a war, an agression or an invasion. You may say that there are other outlets of information, but no, all critical to Russian government newspapers, radio stations, tv channels were recently closed. Facebook, BBC, DW, YouTube blocked. The best analogy to what is going on there would be: a frog slowly boiling in a pan.

Re: Last Day of IKEA in Moscow

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Provided they are vertically integrated and own the entire supply chain. Otherwise they will find that planes not flying in/out and container ships not delivering will make it hard to import anything at scale. Not that they could pay for goods anyway. Also I suspect China may use its new found leverage to flood the Russian market with their goods.

there are plenty of planes flying in and out, container ships delivering, and cross border payments happening, right now.

Not for long potentially. I don't have the link right now, but someone posted an interesting thread on Twitter how to fly planes you need a lot of international support. Down to things like supply of replacement parts and access to repair manuals. Their estimate (not sure if accurate) is that in 3 weeks, domestic aviation in Russia will become very hard to run.

(Boing and Airbus already suspended providing replacement parts)

I haven't heard anything about impact on container ships yet, so curious what's the situation there...

Re: Last Day of IKEA in Moscow

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Go visit the homepage of this newspaper. It's crazy, there's no clear reference to war or attacks. This article on Ikea is just an attempt to tell the desperation without breaking the censorship law.

They were told to censor or be sued. They removed any postings of war after that. Novaya Gazeta is a newspaper critical of current Russian affairs.

Sued? Sounds like far worse.
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