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Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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I have worked in remote companies and companies that had butt in chair requirements, so far all the remote companies have been more innovative and had more cross talk between teams than the companies that required people to be in an office all day, every day. Of course, that's just my experience but I do have a feeling that certain type of people feel that there's more innovation around coffee and chance encounter be…

I'm interested in how you accomplish this. Everything has to be scheduled in a meeting these days, and meeting burn out over zoom is real. Where as in the office it was just walking around and seeing someone in an elevator, the hall, "hey lets catch up" or "you have a minute" or "lets get lunch" these types of interactions just don't happen anymore

I go to meetings for a living. Its been a huge productivity boost to not have to walk 15 minutes across campus to meet my clients. Plus I never have to worry about not having a projector.

Although you're right, I did go back to the office the other day and spent a good hour talking to a co-worker about their Caribbean vacation. I hadn't had one of those in years. Not sure how that boosted innovation and productivity tho.

Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Personal investments in Bay Area housing by senior execs.

Bingo! Wanna bet upper management and board members spend some of their money buying up nearby or distant-but-commute-friendly property just before a new "campus" is announced? Not the actual land the campus will be built on, of course. That would be a conflict of interest.

The concept of an exec being the landlord of a new grad hire or owning intern housing is truly techno-feudalism.

Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Maybe it's me, but I have yet to experience 'innovation' result from a conversation held over coffee or a chance encounter. I've had better luck creating connections with other parts of the business and exchanging ideas over the infrequent cocktail party where it's a mission of the night. Say all you want about open floorplans and irrelevant quiet encounters. Having said that, every situation is unique.

Really, do most employees contribute to innovation at all? Can they? I certainly never have except in an explicit innovation job. The rest of the time I am an implementer. So keep me away from connections with the other parts of the business as that just becomes a sideways way to ask for feature requests I have no say in or other info/support requests.

The far majority of people do grunt work. Only a small group actually does anything both innovative and non-obvious, which is the "use case" presented for these small talks. Most devs who are not part of that small group and find something non-obvious have to fight through many layers of bureaucracy to even get their voice heard, let alone be given time to prove their idea without having to invest their own time. This also doesn't take into account the far majority of those select people have dedicated times where they research potential innovations, and getting into that small group is also difficult.

Even supposing FAANG, fortune 100s or whatever top percentile is likely to desire more innovation, the idea spontaneous talks one supposedly only could have in the office significantly impacting the rates of innovation is pretty far-fetched and mostly just an assumption.

Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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> More people are dying with Covid now than were dying most of the previous two years, minus 4 peaks of various waves. There is a huge difference between "dying with COVID" and "dying from COVID".

Covid sucks. My toddler (for various shitty reasons I was unable to prevent) got it three times in the last 12 months. Even vaccinated (and never testing positive), the immune response I got from taking care of a highly infectious toddler screaming in my face was terrible and really brutal. I’m not old, fully functional immune system, etc. and it had me out for weeks, brain fog, exhaustion, off and on high fever, you…

> If I hadn’t been fully vaccinated just before the first time he got it, I’d probably be dead.

Statistically speaking, that isn’t true.

Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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That’s how it should be, no? If constituents want to end a policy then their representative should work to do exactly that.

Lots of constituents don't want to wear a seatbelt. Lots of constituents want to drink before the age of 21. Lots of constituents want to buy alcohol after midnight and on a Sunday before noon. Lots of constituents want lots of things that the reps clearly ignore. Where do you draw the line of "as it should be" and "those damn gov't bastards!!"?

The evidence probably supports that if the majority of constituents support something that isn't clearly unconstitutional it does tend to happen. See weed legalization in many states which at least in Massachusetts passed in a ballot question with the legislature kicking and screaming through the whole process.

Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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> Something substantial has definitely changed. Yeah, it's called midterm elections are coming up and the Democrats are staring down the barrel of getting absolutely crushed if they continue on with mask and vaccine mandate policies.

If you look around the world, many countries are lifting all measures. And they definitely are not affected by US elections. They are affected by hospitalization, ICU and death numbers that are falling as infections are rising.

They are affected by their own elections though.

Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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You don't think the fact that this country just had the largest ever COVID wave (in terms of cases), which is in the process of ending, is at all related to the decisions? Also of the scant 40 million people remaining in California, who haven't yet moved to Texas or Florida, public support for at least some "COVID protocols" are very high [1]. I'm not sure you are giving an impartial assessment of the facts. 1: https…

The PR Firm Impact Research sent a report to the Democrats on Feb 22, 2022 urging them to lift all restrictions & claim victory for political points. Immediately after, restrictions lifted. Do your own assessment of the facts. Leaked memo https://punchbowl.news/impact-covid-positioning-strategy-mem...

With covid numbers falling from the inevitable January spike after the holidays, lifting omicron restrictions was always going to happen sometime this spring. (Barring some new deadly hypothetical variant.)

But I don't doubt that both parties factor PR into all of their decisions, down to how they dress.

The implication that a PR firm could dictate that the country would remain shut down until November despite covid numbers this low is silly. But I'm sure timing and messaging and other details are informed by PR studies.

Whether from fear of losing their jobs or wanting to carry out the will of their constituents, lawmakers have to pay attention to what we think either way.

Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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More people are dying with Covid now than were dying most of the previous two years, minus 4 peaks of various waves. I'm happy we're returning to normalcy, but it just makes me wonder "why now?" It's like the government and big business just decided overnight to declare "mission accomplished" when nothing substantial has changed. Last summer, for example, could have been the reopening, and we'd have better data and "…

A lot has changed in the last year? Loads of people have been vaccinated that weren't a year ago (even if they were eligible then). Kids became eligible to be vaccinated only a few months ago, which even if it wasn't actually risky to them it was a major concern for many parents. Right about that time, the omicron wave hit, and ever since late december we've known it was very likely we'd peak and then crash on cases.…

Under 5s still aren’t eligible.
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