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Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Post by ghaff »

danceparty wrote: post #32

From the article, in office is 3 days per week - > We will then begin the hybrid pilot in full on May 23, with people coming to the office three days a week — on Monday, Tuesday, and Thursday — and working flexibly on Wednesday and Friday if you wish.

Though personally I'm fully remote, everything I've read and seen suggests something like this is going to be extremely common. Most employees seem to want to come into an office on a semi-regular basis but not 5 days a week. And, if you're going to do that, you probably want some level of coordination whether it's at a company, facility, or team level.

Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Post by colinplamondon »

WithinReason wrote: post #36
nostromo wrote: post #16

More people are dying with Covid now than were dying most of the previous two years, minus 4 peaks of various waves. I'm happy we're returning to normalcy, but it just makes me wonder "why now?" It's like the government and big business just decided overnight to declare "mission accomplished" when nothing substantial has changed. Last summer, for example, could have been the reopening, and we'd have better data and "…

> More people are dying with Covid now than were dying most of the previous two years, minus 4 peaks of various waves. There is a huge difference between "dying with COVID" and "dying from COVID".

That was true from the beginning. Legacy bureaucracies like the CDC are just recognizing what was clear in 2020.

Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Post by jjulius »

jb1991 wrote: post #44
gtirloni wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> More people are dying with Covid now than were dying most of the previous two years That's surprising. Do you have a source?

That stat has been widely reported, in the U.S. at least. There are more deaths from Covid occurring currently in the U.S. on an average daily basis that at any prior time in the pandemic. https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/24/health/covid-deaths-now-y... NY Times, Washington Post, and other media have similar stories.

From your article:

>The people dying from Covid-19 now tend to be younger than before, and they're overwhelmingly unvaccinated, experts say.

To be honest, I'm at the point now where the vaccine has been available for a year. Everyone who was going to get it has had it, and you're not likely to change the minds of those who won't get it. As heartless as this sounds, I'm tired of waiting for those people to come around. They are making the choice to not get it, let them live with whatever the consequences may be instead of keeping shit closed/restricted just because that group is making poor choices.

Edit: I realize that some people can't get it for various medical reasons, and I empathize with them. It's everyone else I'm referring to.

Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Post by lmilcin »

xxpor wrote: post #12
Apocryphon wrote: post #2

Apple has always been the more stringent about remote work, in terms of maintaining secrecy by keeping its workers on-premises, so this is the least surprising move.

I have to imagine a lot of that has to do with the HW work they do, as a percentage of their business? Even regardless of the confidentiality aspect (and we all know how Apple feels about that), for a decent number of folks, they might need some decently expensive equipment that wouldn't make sense to buy for everyone individually. At least according to how I perceive the company, the folks coming from that side of t…

I think it is safe to say that most people do not have access to any expensive equipment.

I worked for Samsung for a little bit. And even there with operating system basically borrowed from Google, only very small portion of people ever needed to use any special tools. We got some prototypes but the one time we needed to do anything was to desolder and solder again a battery for a prototype watch. And that because a mistake (charging controller circuit badly designed, not powering properly from external power when battery drained). We had one guy do this for the rest of the team and everybody else was just working on software.

Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Post by MattGaiser »

windows2020 wrote: post #21

Maybe it's me, but I have yet to experience 'innovation' result from a conversation held over coffee or a chance encounter. I've had better luck creating connections with other parts of the business and exchanging ideas over the infrequent cocktail party where it's a mission of the night. Say all you want about open floorplans and irrelevant quiet encounters. Having said that, every situation is unique.

Really, do most employees contribute to innovation at all? Can they?

I certainly never have except in an explicit innovation job. The rest of the time I am an implementer. So keep me away from connections with the other parts of the business as that just becomes a sideways way to ask for feature requests I have no say in or other info/support requests.

Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Post by LightG »

dmitrygr wrote: post #14

An open season on Apple employees starts now. Recruiters, take notice...

You may be wrong.

I'm staunch in favour of remote. I like it, it works. But I recognise the benefits of in-person. I would wager that what most people like me want is a bit of control of their schedule and to be able to work in a hybrid manner. The end.

I know as that's what I was going to ask my boss, before he dragged us all back in to the office and stopped remote completely in Nov-21. Most of our team have left and I'm just about to leave.

Hybrid is a reasonable way forward. 100% on-site isn't given everything that's happened, and those are the companies who will lose their employees.

Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Post by miked85 »

nostromo wrote: post #16

More people are dying with Covid now than were dying most of the previous two years, minus 4 peaks of various waves. I'm happy we're returning to normalcy, but it just makes me wonder "why now?" It's like the government and big business just decided overnight to declare "mission accomplished" when nothing substantial has changed. Last summer, for example, could have been the reopening, and we'd have better data and "…

The midterm elections is the only reason.

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Post by veilrap »

gfodor wrote: post #51
nostromo wrote: post #16

More people are dying with Covid now than were dying most of the previous two years, minus 4 peaks of various waves. I'm happy we're returning to normalcy, but it just makes me wonder "why now?" It's like the government and big business just decided overnight to declare "mission accomplished" when nothing substantial has changed. Last summer, for example, could have been the reopening, and we'd have better data and "…

It’s not like they just decided - they did, they actually just decided. The change in cloth mask guidance proves it: no new data, we always knew they were ineffective.

Cloth masks are estimated to be in the 50-60% effectiveness range. To me, that's quite effective, not ineffective. Especially when applied across an entire population.

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Post by infamouscow »

WithinReason wrote: post #36
nostromo wrote: post #16

More people are dying with Covid now than were dying most of the previous two years, minus 4 peaks of various waves. I'm happy we're returning to normalcy, but it just makes me wonder "why now?" It's like the government and big business just decided overnight to declare "mission accomplished" when nothing substantial has changed. Last summer, for example, could have been the reopening, and we'd have better data and "…

> More people are dying with Covid now than were dying most of the previous two years, minus 4 peaks of various waves. There is a huge difference between "dying with COVID" and "dying from COVID".

> There is a huge difference between "dying with COVID" and "dying from COVID".

The distinction you're making isn't new - it's literally years old at this point.

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