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Nintendo is removing switch emulation videos on Steam Deck from YouTube

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Re: Nintendo is removing switch emulation videos on Steam Deck from YouTube

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Then at the same time, is it immoral for me to have no kids because it means the extinction of the human race? Is it immoral for me to have 3 kids because it means exponential growth, overpopulation, famine and destruction of the Earth? If we follow the logic to its end, the only moral choice is for everyone to have not 1, not 3 but exactly 2 kids. I feel like this "law" really fails to account that not everybody on…

Why 2? Why not just 1? Also, leave it to HN to take some news about video game emulation to a discussion about antinatalism, haha

Because we don't reproduce by budding.

Also it would be 2.something not 2 exactly, because some number of people die from various causes before reproducing.

Re: Nintendo is removing switch emulation videos on Steam Deck from YouTube

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I'm all for emulating systems that don't exist anymore. But this commenter's level of naive entitlement is beyond obnoxious. A good rule to live by is to ask "what would happen if everyone did X?" In this case, Nintendo would cease to exist. Maybe you'd be happy about this. Plenty of people wouldn't. Switches are generally available and not that expensive. If you want to play Switch games, buy one. If you don't, don'…

> A good rule to live by is to ask "what would happen if everyone did X?" For example: "What would happen if all companies blocked individuals from doing what they want with the hardware they bought?" You get a hacking community and people imprisoned for the unlocked hardware they paid for. Not to mention a whole lot of ewaste that could otherwise work for years. No, that's not a good example. How about this one: "Wh…

> I'm not aware of any company going under directly because of piracy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tower_Records#Bankruptcy

Re: Nintendo is removing switch emulation videos on Steam Deck from YouTube

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> The Steam deck doesn't just threaten the outdated hardware of the switch in terms of games and gaming performance, it threatens Nintendo's platform on its own turf. I really doubt it. - It doesn't include a dock or any external controller without paying more. This was the entire pitch for the Switch - It's more expensive and has worse battery life. Better graphics don't matter that much on a tiny screen. (Game Gear…

> Valve has a bad track record for committing to their own hardware. Remember how everyone also thought SteamOS was going to be the big takeover and it barely even happened? You seem to be unaware that SteamOS was a a resounding success in its primary goal: to stop in its tracks Microsoft's plan to turn the Windows OS into a locked-down walled garden that would run only MS-approved software* (by threatening them to s…

Simply standing out of frame in the background while Microsoft faceplants into the ground at 50mph does not make SteamOS a "resounding success", it just makes it a thing that existed, at best.

Re: Nintendo is removing switch emulation videos on Steam Deck from YouTube

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Nothing new here. Nintendo hates emulation with a passion. It passionately hates ways people enjoy their devices and platforms in ways they didn't intent. It hates fan projects, it might even hate its fans. Nintendo has a long history of lying in legal documents like DMCAs to take content that doesn't please them down. To be a dedicated fan of Nintendo's franchises is to be a masochist. The Steam deck doesn't just th…

I'm all for emulating systems that don't exist anymore. But this commenter's level of naive entitlement is beyond obnoxious. A good rule to live by is to ask "what would happen if everyone did X?" In this case, Nintendo would cease to exist. Maybe you'd be happy about this. Plenty of people wouldn't. Switches are generally available and not that expensive. If you want to play Switch games, buy one. If you don't, don'…

> In this case, Nintendo would cease to exist

The same argument used to say pirated music would kill music. I hope you realize how ridiculous it is.

Re: Nintendo is removing switch emulation videos on Steam Deck from YouTube

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I am not going to blatantly support piracy of video games (Most of us work in the software industry, and most of us want to get paid for our work. Video games should be no different.), but I think it's clear that game preservation has some issues in its current state, and Nintendo is one of the worst offenders. Nintendo is a lot like Apple in this way. They see things in one way, and assume all consumers will happily…

But where do you still find games that you own? You might be lucky enought to still own a physical media but the game is still only licensed to you. What if the licensor decides that the media will burn the first account it is used with into some efuses? No more selling that cart. You can be f*cked with every minute. Or just a hypothetical example: you bought a cool sandbox game in alpha and then some years later, so…

Shit, thanks for reminding me I have migrate before they lock me out

Re: Nintendo is removing switch emulation videos on Steam Deck from YouTube

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This is a well established philosophical concept referred as Kant universality laws. It is a good rule to live by. Makes it obvious that cutting in line is immoral because lines could not exist if everybody did it.

Then at the same time, is it immoral for me to have no kids because it means the extinction of the human race? Is it immoral for me to have 3 kids because it means exponential growth, overpopulation, famine and destruction of the Earth? If we follow the logic to its end, the only moral choice is for everyone to have not 1, not 3 but exactly 2 kids. I feel like this "law" really fails to account that not everybody on…

> is it immoral for me to have no kids because it means the extinction of the human race?

Yes!

> Is it immoral for me to have 3 kids because it means exponential growth, overpopulation, famine and destruction of the Earth? If we follow the logic to its end, the only moral choice is for everyone to have not 1, not 3 but exactly 2 kids.

Limiting to 2 would cause the extinction of the human race. Some people should have 3 so that we get a sustainable level of population growth - especially people in countries where the population is declining.

(I'm not anti-emulator, I'm not even a huge fan of the categorical imperative, but this is an astonishingly weak counterargument)

Re: Nintendo is removing switch emulation videos on Steam Deck from YouTube

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> it's a niche product for tech enthusiasts It is if you want it to be, but it's also a plug-and-play handheld console for PC gamers, which is not a niche market. Yeah, it runs a Linux-based OS but it's not like the user has to install it. Yeah, tinkerers and hackers are gonna do crazy stuff with it, but the vast majority of users will simply exchange $400 for a thing that runs video games.

Well it's definetly "niche" in that it's not sold in general stores and you have to order it 6 months in advance since Valve can't make them in large quantities at the moment. That's gonna be a deal killer for most consumers for now. Best case scenario it is plug and play for Deck verified games bought on Steam. If you want to play a game you own on GOG or the Epic store that's already going to require some tinkering…

> Well it's definetly "niche" in that it's not sold in general stores

Is that a good definition?

> and you have to order it 6 months in advance since Valve can't make them in large quantities at the moment

Switches were, and other consoles still are, in short supply for a number of reasons the past two years. The deck was released a week ago amid a historic shortage of the key component and general supply chain issues. The PS5 is hard to get at MSRP, to say nothing of GPUs, something like a year and change after release. I wouldn't call those niche products.

> Best case scenario it is plug and play for Deck verified games bought on Steam.

Yes, this is the best case scenario. It's also the baseline use case that most people will go through and a revolutionary value add in the market. Steam is the most popular platform for PC games and the vast majority of peoples' libraries are on their platform, not Epic's or GOG's. People without much investment in the platform are probably not going to buy a product named the *Steam Deck*. And even for the minority of users that are heavily invested in smaller platforms, it's a step up from whatever other obscure options they have now. That Epic doesn't want their games to run on a competitor's hardware is unfortunate but it's not like the Switch games I payed out the behind for are ever going to run on Sony or Microsoft hardware.

All of this seems like a strange set of criticism to target it with - all other plug-and-play consoles on the market basically require buying new games in a locked ecosystem with no/little crossplatform capabilities and all other PC handhelds either suck or cost roughly three times as much.

Re: Nintendo is removing switch emulation videos on Steam Deck from YouTube

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> A good rule to live by is to ask "what would happen if everyone did X?" For example: "What would happen if all companies blocked individuals from doing what they want with the hardware they bought?" You get a hacking community and people imprisoned for the unlocked hardware they paid for. Not to mention a whole lot of ewaste that could otherwise work for years. No, that's not a good example. How about this one: "Wh…

> I'm not aware of any company going under directly because of piracy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tower_Records#Bankruptcy

You need to read your own links

> Factors cited were the heavy debt incurred during its aggressive expansion in the 1990s, growing competition from mass discounters and Internet piracy.[10] Mismanagement, managerial incompetence, and crippling restrictions from the first bankruptcy deal also contributed to Tower's demise.[11]

Not just piracy to say the least.

Re: Nintendo is removing switch emulation videos on Steam Deck from YouTube

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The way people on YouTube get around the legal penalties for false DMCAs is simple: they don't file a DMCA request. There are several other mechanisms by which YouTube will gladly pull content: Content ID, contractual obligations, TOS violation, etc.

I still don't understand why Google went on the route of proactively removing content rather than reactively.

Money, dear boy. They gain a lot more from keeping the big media companies onside than they do by pissing off a handful of creators (who are frankly a commodity to them).

Re: Nintendo is removing switch emulation videos on Steam Deck from YouTube

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Why 2? Why not just 1? Also, leave it to HN to take some news about video game emulation to a discussion about antinatalism, haha

Because we don't reproduce by budding. Also it would be 2.something not 2 exactly, because some number of people die from various causes before reproducing.

I’m not sure what you’re trying to say. Why the emphasis on having 2 children instead of 1?
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