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Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe's largest

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Re: Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe's largest

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news spreading about "elevated radiation levels near the power plant" and the plant being on fire are also fake https://twitter.com/iaeaorg/status/1499562515340177416 #Ukraine regulator tells IAEA there has been no change reported in #radiation levels at the #Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant site. anyways, the news cycle nowadays and the misinformation is insane CNN literally reporting "Ukraine's Zaporizhzhia nuclear…

I get what you are saying, and you are right stuff is sensationalized, but there is video of the facility getting shelled. The fire didn't start itself. People need to be anxious about this shit. The sad part is that we don't need any sensationalism to be anxious right now.

Re: Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe's largest

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Sense? What about any of this makes sense?

That is indeed the fundamental issue still. The invasion of Ukraine is simply insane and will absolutely hurt Russia far more than it can ever benefit. That's the really scary part which makes this all terribly unpredictable.

I do not think Putin gives a flying fuck whether it benefits Russia. He acts like a rabid dog.

Re: Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe's largest

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It's an awfully effective way to distract people from focusing on defending the perimeter of whatever city they're trying to defend

If it provides 1/4 of the country's power, couldn't they leave the containment domes alone, and just hit the lines coming out of the plant? If you're the invading country, it'd be nice to have that power later when you're in charge, wouldn't it?

Doesn’t the power has to go somewhere. I don’t know what would happen to a nuclear power plant operating without a load to take the generated power.

Maybe the steam just vents? Or bypasses a turbine? Hopefully it can operate without being connected to the outside, but I’m not sure.

Re: Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe's largest

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CNN's homepage currently has video of the Russian shells impacting the plant, shot from the same camera doing that live stream. Extremely unsettling.

Those look like flares, not shells. Still a fire hazard, but less destructive.

flares? not tracer rounds mixed in with regular rounds?

Re: Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe's largest

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Good discussion. Brings some clarity to this and so far it doesn’t sound quite as serious as you might be led to believe given the headlines.

It's reassuring in that meltdown is very unlikely. But who the actual fuck shells a nuclear plant? That's not reassuring at all. It's also against international law.

Nobody shelled a nuclear plant. Russian forces drove into the parking lot of a nuclear plant, had two RPGs fired upon them from an administrative building and fired machine guns back at the administrative building. There were fires and after some time the fighting was sorted out and firefighters put out the fire.

Re: Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe's largest

#267
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At what point do we consider the risks of letting this continue higher than the potential effects of intervention?

Given that the potential effects of intervention run up to nuclear war -- never.

Isn’t intentionally causing a nuclear meltdown during war already nuclear war?

Re: Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe's largest

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Allegedly, Ukrainian firefighters were shot at by Russian troops. If true, then that’s another war crime to add to the growing list.

Indeed, which is fucking terrifying.

You don't do war crimes unless you expect to get away with it, which means either you're fighting a war that more powerful nations don't care about, or you expect to win it.

Putin can't win against NATO but he can make both sides lose.

I used to think he was rational and only minorly evil, but now I'm not so sure of the rationality... and clearly he's more than minorly evil.

Re: Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe's largest

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“Should emphasize there's a LOT of safeguards in place that make a radiation leak unlikely. Still, doesn't seem very wise.” https://twitter.com/inteldoge/status/1499542139155398659?s=2...

The account seems credible enough, but there's something weird about citing a military intel account named and themed on a meme.

It's just one of many OSINT accounts on Twitter that report / summarize what's coming through via both Telegram users and official sources.
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