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Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe's largest

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Re: Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe's largest

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jquery wrote: post #214
dimitrios1 wrote: post #185

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Unironically, it is exactly that crisis that is key to understanding Russias actions right now, as there are many similar parallels. That, plus the 2.5T barrels worth of shale that Chevron and Exxon prospected underneath the Crimean peninsula. If Russia really did go to war over securing some natural resources and a geopolitical strategic location, over a false pretense of something like liberation, it would sound so…

If we equate Saddam Hussein with Zelensky, then sure. I'm not so sure the parallels are actually there, though. Intelligence tells us Putin's actual reasons for invading ukraine have a lot more to do with restoring the glory of the Russian Empire. Putin's "denazification" and "liberation" rhetoric seems more like a bone thrown towards those who are fair-minded and want to believe in an equivalence between Putin and W…

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Re: Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe's largest

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Post by paulpauper »

Stock futures plunged because of fears of a meltdown, I presume. For that to happen requires a specific chain of events, not just a fire at some non critical part of the plant. Nuclear power plants are designed to withstand a lot. Likely the plant was shutdown anyway. Now stock futures have recovered almost all losses, would have been a good buying opportunity based on this fear. Shows how having an knowledge advantage helps greatly when trading based on headlines.

Re: Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe's largest

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Post by kilroy123 »

AeroNotix wrote: post #206
HL33tibCe7 wrote: post #148

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The risks of nuclear war from a NATO militarily intervention are far too high to even consider it. I’m sorry to say, but there is really nothing that could happen in Ukraine that would be bad enough for us to accept the risk of nuclear annihilation.

So any time a tin pot dictator wants to do whatever they want they just claim they'll use nukes and we let it ride?

Yes and this is why the US has been so aggressive about stopping North Korea.

And why the US and especially Israel is so against Iran having nuclear weapons, to the point where Israel would attack Iran militarily, to stop them.

Re: Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe's largest

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Post by nomel »

YeBanKo wrote: post #167

Title needs to change. Russian army caused the fire. It did not started by itself.

It's the title of the article, and I don't think a responsible news agency, like Reuters, would put that title.

> Reuters could not immediately verify the information, including the potential seriousness of any fire.

Re: Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe's largest

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Post by kilroy123 »

HL33tibCe7 wrote: post #148
Thaxll wrote: post #131

One can wonder what does it takes for the west to military intervene. Sanctions are a long term plan but it won't save Ukraine.

The risks of nuclear war from a NATO militarily intervention are far too high to even consider it. I’m sorry to say, but there is really nothing that could happen in Ukraine that would be bad enough for us to accept the risk of nuclear annihilation.

I think if Russia resorted to using nuclear weapons against Ukraine we would intervene.

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Post by GoodJokes »

AeroNotix wrote: post #206
HL33tibCe7 wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The risks of nuclear war from a NATO militarily intervention are far too high to even consider it. I’m sorry to say, but there is really nothing that could happen in Ukraine that would be bad enough for us to accept the risk of nuclear annihilation.

So any time a tin pot dictator wants to do whatever they want they just claim they'll use nukes and we let it ride?

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Post by jareds »

eric_b wrote: post #205
smrtinsert wrote: post #125

I am absolutely livid and terrified for the state of the world right now.

Consider that there have been terrible things happening to people throughout the world, every day, for years. This is bad, of course, but I'd caution you that you're letting the media dictate your emotions. Did you feel this mad during the (still ongoing) Syrian conflict? How about when Russia invaded Georgia? Or the first Ukraine invasion in Crimea? In all three cases the threat of nuclear war was probably as high a…

For me the difference between now and Syria is when Syria started, I'd see one or two stories a day in the AP when I checked the news. I didn't frequent HN so can't speak to if it was constantly on the news. I realize a lot of the reason were getting the info is because this is a war in Europe instead of Asia or Africa. I've had to use pihole to block several sites on a schedule to keep me from doomscrolling, maybe I need to increase my blocked time? I'd love info on how people experienced World War II without TV as well as Vietnam and the first Gulf war when we had tv but before 24/7 news coverage on the internet and social media.

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Post by dylan604 »

hadlock wrote: post #118
lumost wrote: post #109

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The best containment domes won't survive persistent shelling. I can't conceive of a valid reason for shelling a nuclear power plant.

It's an awfully effective way to distract people from focusing on defending the perimeter of whatever city they're trying to defend

If it provides 1/4 of the country's power, couldn't they leave the containment domes alone, and just hit the lines coming out of the plant? If you're the invading country, it'd be nice to have that power later when you're in charge, wouldn't it?
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