It's so bad for Russian people and companies. We generally should not give any advice to them since their rescued incomes pour money into killings of Ukraine civilians. I hope you guys could cut off from the devastating powers in your country in some way.
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Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia
#822Earlier quoted context omitted.
The size of the target country is somewhat less significant to me than the explicit justification for the war involving invocation of a set of translations and transpositions of the whole set of Nazi expansionist arguments ( lebensraum , Volksgemeinschaft , and Blut and Boden ), with a twist on the Dolchstoßlegende mixed in.
Writing it in german does not change that those concept are fundamental for alot of border disputes. The pretense is not what is interesting but the sheer size of the endeavour.
> Writing it in german does not change that those concept are fundamental for alot of border disputes.
I can't think of another country of any kind, much less a major power, overtly invoking the whole set since Hitler, but if it's so common, please list the examples you are thinking of.
Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia
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> I'm trying to understand the scale of Putin's decision Drastic. Catastrophic. Suicidal. World-changing. The country (Russia) in its current form has just ceased to exist. The entire parasitic elite class just got cut off from everything they stole during all these years. The entire human potential of Russia just got nullified for at lest 20 years. The push towards green energy (and I hope nuclear fusion) just got a…
NATO would have destroyed Russia anyway. After the drastic intensification of anti-Russia propaganda in 201x which prepared the population to accept it, it is a matter of time. There is nothing nothing Russia might do to stop the agression (bully always finds pretext). It is not new: no matter the regime, the West will always try to dismantle Russia. Ukraine is a desperate attempt to defend the state against much mor…
Maybe if Russia was a little less eager in deploying nerve agents in foreign countries the "anti-Russia propaganda" would be less effective.
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#824Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I am a US citizen, and sometimes I am really ashamed of my country Is there any country in history with comparable economic and military power to the US that has a "cleaner" record in terms of "bad stuff"? I'm specifying comparable power to specifically exclude tiny nations that never had the capacity to do "bad stuff."
None of your potential candidates have ever nuked any other country, which in terms of war crimes rates pretty damn high.
At the time Nuking a country wasn’t a war crime. Also fire bombing raids on other cities (eg Dresden) were actually worse than the nuclear bombing. Additionally it could be argued that the nuclear option actually killed fewer civilians than the alternative.
Strongly recommend Dan Carlins podcast on the rise and fall of imperial japan to learn more.
Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia
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This highlights one of my growing ethical dillemas. I am a US citizen, and sometimes I am really ashamed of my country. We have done some really bad stuff. We’ve done a whole lot of shady stuff that is complicated to pass simple judgement on. But the US has done good stuff as well. They loan money, send aid, rebuild, provide. Some times the motives are duplicitous in these acts of good. But the bottom line is, when I…
Did you consider the possibility that you're like many (most?) of US people just brainwashed (hard to believe, I know, after all you live in the capital of the said free world)? It might be that simple. * For more info ask: Iraq, Vietnam, China, Korea, KSA people (not you ally royal family), Africa, Native Americans, Iran (1952, 1979), Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Japan, US Black people, Cupa, Chile, Brazil, Egypt, Sou…
I dont see anything especially bad about the US. The notion that other countries would have acted better is often betrayed by their own history. The US just historically had more capability. Additionally the pax americana has saved millions of lives. If your a male the odds you die in combat have decreased globally by more than an order of magnitude since the US became a super power. Global poverty has also rapidly decreased etc.
Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia
#826Earlier quoted context omitted.
It was never a civil war; from the beginning, it was a Russian invasion implemented partially with some locals as a proxy.
True, I was following the official wording because even us in the west didn't want to call that an invasion for fear of inciting Putin. Of course that ship has sailed so we can now call it what it is. But basically the status quo is that these areas would be no good for Ukraine anymore because they're shot to crap and full or armed rebels (or green men). It's not like it's actually useful territory for building housi…
There are huge coal deposits that Ukraine relies on. Some export of coal was going on even during years of Russian occupation.
Ukraine needs them to be energy-independent.
Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia
#827What are the possibilities for an average russian citizen to leave russia and start over somewhere in the west? How about visas? Does anyone know?
In 2022: zero, unless you have relatives/friends from abroad who are willing to help. I'm mid-20s below-average Russian born and raised in a city with population of 19k (and declining), Ural region. Average salary here is around 200-300 USD, 400 if you are lucky. I emmigrated in 2019 to work with an international startup in Montenegro: and ended up being ostracized and harassed by my manager from another country (won…
> but with the entire world openly opposed to my nation, I doubt that will ever happen.
I think most people understand that this is Putin's war, not the war of the "Russian people". And many people I have spoken to in various demonstration against the war (in Germany), protested against Putin, not Russia. I did not see a single banner with "Stop Russia" - all referred directly to Putin.
Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia
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> How do we know it’s propaganda? If your country is always right and the rest are always wrong, that could be a hint. In Western media you'll find voices for and against the war. In Russian media it's barely acknowledged that there's a war ongoing.
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Yeah, why whould Europe care about the Austrian painter annexing Czechoslovakia? This only concerns Germany and Czechoslovakia.
Same with Germany and Austria, don't get involved. Germany and Netherlands, just a border dispute. Germany and France, none of your business. Germany and the Soviet Union, why would you care?
It's almost as if we could ignore all the international law we created after WW2, jeez.
The sad thing is that you'll wonder why your state is widely seen as fascist and oppressive, and think of your nation as the victim of the rest, only because they react negatively to your state's questionable foreign policy.
You can have a tyranny and nobody would care for the most part. Be North Korea if you want. Just don't spill it over people who don't want it.
Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia
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This highlights one of my growing ethical dillemas. I am a US citizen, and sometimes I am really ashamed of my country. We have done some really bad stuff. We’ve done a whole lot of shady stuff that is complicated to pass simple judgement on. But the US has done good stuff as well. They loan money, send aid, rebuild, provide. Some times the motives are duplicitous in these acts of good. But the bottom line is, when I…
> When it comes to USSR/Russia, I am not aware of the good acts. It’s not just that thy do bad things, it’s that I never hear of any of the good things they do in the world at large. The red army took Berlin and ended the Nazis. It was an Allied victory but it came about because Russia put their full might into stopping Hitler. This is not insignificant if you don't like what the third reich was up to. It came at a t…
Remember the USSR was allies with the Nazis and only turned on them because they were betrayed.
Spending your citizens lives cheaply is not a noble thing.
The US had nukes and its manufacturing and soldier population was massive. Coupled with the Western allies Germany was going to lose once America entered the war (see Churchill’s memoirs). USSR did accelerate it though.
Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia
#830Earlier quoted context omitted.
This highlights one of my growing ethical dillemas. I am a US citizen, and sometimes I am really ashamed of my country. We have done some really bad stuff. We’ve done a whole lot of shady stuff that is complicated to pass simple judgement on. But the US has done good stuff as well. They loan money, send aid, rebuild, provide. Some times the motives are duplicitous in these acts of good. But the bottom line is, when I…
> When it comes to USSR/Russia, I am not aware of the good acts. It’s not just that thy do bad things, it’s that I never hear of any of the good things they do in the world at large. There is an interview from Yale University with Vladimir Pozner that is very worth watching: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X7Ng75e5gQ It is absolutely insane that western media does not report anything positive on Russia and I hope it…
This is a shockingly bad take. Nobody else is poisoning political rivals with radioactive umbrellas in London. Nobody else had a Gulag Archipelago. Not even Hitler killed half as many people in concentration camps.
Russian Fed is an organized crime family with a hundred million hostages controlled by mob bosses Putin is a dictator.