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Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by alephnan »

zeroping wrote: post #223
a254613e wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh come on, someone asked you a technical question - you can't expect everyone to research the country of origin, country of residence, and perhaps a personal situation of every private person, developer, or a company before emailing them.

Those few words are a perfectly adequate response though. The author has bigger things to get done right now.

Then why not cache the response and just put a banner on the project giving people context, instead of individually half answering the technical questions with a rhetorical question?

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by squarefoot »

kungito wrote: post #206
teekert wrote: post #180

This whole situation is so surreal and disappointing. I grew up on Star Trek and somehow I just though we had (almost) arrived in a post-war, federation-like world. We know things should be solved with words because otherwise there are only losers. It’s how we raise our kids. I just keep thinking about how Jean Luc is looking down on us from orbit, slowly shaking his head whispering “Savages.”

There have been multiple active wars in like 1/4 of the world the whole time since ww2 and all the time before that. The only thing different is that Ukraine is closer to EU than the rest of the countries.

Chechnya war also was very close and nobody cared since they were mostly Islamic, and the war in the former Yugoslavia happened just in the middle of Europe, but apparently many have already lost memory of it despite the atrocities committed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srebrenica_massacre

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by MrDisposable »

DoingIsLearning wrote: post #105
MrDisposable wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm trying to understand the scale of Putin's decision Drastic. Catastrophic. Suicidal. World-changing. The country (Russia) in its current form has just ceased to exist. The entire parasitic elite class just got cut off from everything they stole during all these years. The entire human potential of Russia just got nullified for at lest 20 years. The push towards green energy (and I hope nuclear fusion) just got a…

Can I ask, how are these economic restrictions affecting you in your daily life? Are people able to access money at their banks? Do you predict any future food security issues? Also in your opinion, what is the likely end game now for Putin? Putin is unlikely to win this war, Ukraine have been given near unlimited anti-tank weapons by the EU/US, and have air superiority now with extra MiG's donated by NATO and TB2 dr…

  > Can I ask, how are these economic restrictions affecting you in your daily life?
My company may soon be unable to receive revenue from western customers.

My company has two ongoing long-term projects (both took about 10 years), which now increasingly look like wasted time and money. If I'm cut off from my income source, I won't be able to retain key people, and will have to halt the development on both projects.

  > what is the likely end game now for Putin?
Endgame for Putin: Live safely in a bunker, for 10-15 more years, then die from natural causes, happy that he made (literally, _made_) history.

Endgame for Russia: after the death of Putin, in about 20 years from now we go the old tried-and-true route: crash, Perestroika, re-integration with the west -- but this time, we will be disarmed and de-fanged. Then we remain in that subdued state until the next drastic world-changing event (such as the advent of strong AI), and after that all bets are off.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by drran »

dondraper36 wrote: post #75
Svoka wrote: post #19

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What you refer to as "whataboutism" is essentially an attempt to have a more balanced view. All countries are equal, but some are a bit more, right? I agree 100% that awful things done by one country do not justify in any way atrocious actions in another. That said, for some reason most people to decide to pick a side very quickly blaming all the world evil on one person and country. Frankly speaking, the USA, EU, Uk…

> You are right, it was Putin not anyone else who made the decision to invade Ukraine

But you blame the victim anyway.

> Frankly speaking, the USA, EU, Ukraine share the same amount of blame for what is happening now.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by hnov »

redwood wrote: post #231
freddealmeida wrote: post #222

This anti-Russian trope spreading is infuriating. If Apple and Google can stop their Pay services, of course everything else will be stopped. But that also means I don't want to be on those services either. It is too much power to give to Amazon, Microsoft and Google. I will actively move my own services to solutions that don't act like arms of the US government.

I'm not sure I get it: are you saying you do not believe the international community should hold Russia accountable for its murderous incomprehensible actions in Europe?

If the international community wants to hold Russia accountable, it should pressure Western Europe to stop buying Russian gas. Infrastructure companies grandstanding is idiotic.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by makeitdouble »

blablablub wrote: post #269

What are the possibilities for an average russian citizen to leave russia and start over somewhere in the west? How about visas? Does anyone know?

More than being Russian, the real issue would be to be moving country amidst the pandemic. Although the every day restrictions have been lowered in many countries, they won't be quick to allow for immigration again.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by randomsearch »

jsmith99 wrote: post #86
randomsearch wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, intervention in Yugoslavia wasn’t a war started by the US. The Kuwait war was after an invasion by Iraq and at the invitation of the government there, and the US were restrained enough to halt at the Iraq border. The Syrian war was not started by the US, and it has played a minor part there. In fact, it is Russia that has indiscriminately bombed Syrian cities and targeted civilians and hospitals there. Afghanis…

The Iraq war was a terrible error but it still can't be compared to Ukraine. America had no plans to colonise Iraq or absorb it into its empire. Despite the enormous death and suffering the war caused, America's aim was naive altruism: getting rid of an unquestionably evil dictator who used WMDs on his own people. There are conspiracy theories that America invaded to steal Iraq's oil but they are not plausible.

Much as I’ve defended the US in some other cases, I think that view on Iraq is somewhat naive. Yes, some wanted to get rid of an evil dictator, but it was motivated more by geopolitics than any sense of altruism.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by spc476 »

nathias wrote: post #271
redwood wrote: post #231

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure I get it: are you saying you do not believe the international community should hold Russia accountable for its murderous incomprehensible actions in Europe?

They aren't holding Russia accountable, they holding Russians accountable and that seems like a terrible thing.

So how does one hold Russia accountable?

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by Archelaos »

godmode2019 wrote: post #155

I think its very sad normal Russian people are going to be targeted when European countries are still buying oil and gas from Russia 700million a day going straight to the war machine. Europeans pretend to care and sanction everything except for the oil and gas that is funding that war. There should always be a difference between government and people. All these sanctions are harming normal people, essentially econom…

The US is hypocritical as well. They could reduce their excessive energy consumption and help the Europeans to replace the Russian coal, gas and oil.
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