What the hell? This would only stop countries in the west from accessing Russian websites. Russia can certainly set up it's own fallback DNS for .ru domains. And China and India aren't likely to want to be blocked from Russian domains, so they'll likely use that DNS system also. As usual, people who don't understand how DNS works are asking to wave it around like a magic wand. The internet treats censorship as damage…
Ukraine Government email to ICANN (requesting shutdown of .ru root DNS servers)
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Re: Ukraine Government email to ICANN (requesting shutdown of .ru root DNS servers)
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
China and Russia have already effectively seceded from the 'open internet'. Those governments have firewalls and killswitches set up in such a way that they can censor whatever they want. If they wish to reap the benefits of the open internet, it's only fair they face consequences when they abuse their power.
Who gets to decide if someone abuses their power? For example the UN did not authorize the invasion of Iraq in 2003.
Re: Ukraine Government email to ICANN (requesting shutdown of .ru root DNS servers)
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
China and Russia have already effectively seceded from the 'open internet'. Those governments have firewalls and killswitches set up in such a way that they can censor whatever they want. If they wish to reap the benefits of the open internet, it's only fair they face consequences when they abuse their power.
But is it an open internet if a centralised authority can effectively wipe out a top level domain name arbitrarily?
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#64This is a terrible shortsighted idea, the average Russian will be negatively effected. Russians are just like you and me, We are talking about effectively disrupting everyday services for Russians... What if someone's trying to access critical health services, use connected medical equipment.. Theres a million reasons to not do this.
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#65Does no one else think all these requests from Ukraine is a bit strange... People, do your research and look into the history of Ukraine, you'll find that all of this was preventable. Watch something like Oliver Stone's Ukraine on Fire, it's a starting point to the bigger picture. Does China face the same actions over their human rights violations ie. Uyghurs, no. Does the US and its allies face the same actions over…
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#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
You'd rather we bomb them instead?
Maybe punishing the innocent with sanctions is necessary, or the lesser of two evils, but it is still an injustice. Maybe Putin thinks the injustice being visited upon the people of Ukraine is a necessary evil as well. But now we're just arguing what evils can be justified, and what cannot.
Sometimes we just have to choose one way or the other and pray it wont go too wrong.
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#67Re: Ukraine Government email to ICANN (requesting shutdown of .ru root DNS servers)
#68That this is even possible shows that ICANN is not reliable enough for a global internet naming authority. I think the solution will ultimately be blockchain-based systems like ENS.
That's crap to fight climate change.
Ethereum for its part is turning off energy-intensive PoW around July this year, to rely solely on its energy efficient PoS Beacon Chain for consensus.
Re: Ukraine Government email to ICANN (requesting shutdown of .ru root DNS servers)
#69I totally get the sentiment, but it will be the worst thing that west can do right now. Russia been practicing and preparing for a while to "sovereign internet", i.e. total disconnect from rest of the internet and operating independently. If ICANN/RIPE will shut things down, it will give to Russian government excellent excuse to totally disconnect from rest of the world