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Ukraine Government email to ICANN (requesting shutdown of .ru root DNS servers)

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Re: Ukraine Government email to ICANN (requesting shutdown of .ru root DNS servers)

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From Bill Woodcock who first posted this email:

"In the short-term, this is a bad plan because it would cut the Russian man-on-the-street off from international news and perspectives, leaving them with only what the Russian government chooses to tell them. That's not a great way to decrease Russian public support for the war.

In the long-term, this would set the precedent that small industry associations in Los Angeles and Amsterdam would be playing arbiter in international conflicts, and messing with countries' supposedly-sovereign country-code top-level domains.

And if that were to happen, a lot more countries than just China and Russia would secede from the common-consensus-Internet that allows us to all talk to each other."

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Woodcock

[2] https://twitter.com/woodyatpch/status/1498472865301098500

Re: Ukraine Government email to ICANN (requesting shutdown of .ru root DNS servers)

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It’s starting to feel like the West is using this conflict as a proxy to implement China-like Great Firewall measures on its own populations. The “globalist” ideal that international commerce and communication would bolster peaceful relations is becoming increasingly farcical. I don’t think that I’ve ever visited a .ru domain name, so it’s not like this will affect me much personally, but sure seems like a weak and paranoid move to me.

Re: Ukraine Government email to ICANN (requesting shutdown of .ru root DNS servers)

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More info: https://twitter.com/woodyatpch/status/1498472865301098500

The twitter post still links to the pastebin. I'm not familiar with pastebin. The account is 9 year-old, but otherwise it seems we can't verify anything about it at the moment?

Re: Ukraine Government email to ICANN (requesting shutdown of .ru root DNS servers)

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Once TTLs expire this will presumably make all RU websites and hostnames inaccessible. Please correct me if I’m wrong.

The effect is ICANN deplatforming all Russian websites from the Web along with taking down SMTP/POP/IMAP servers, and much more.

This is the equivalent of remotely burning all books, killing the mail system and destroying all telecommunications in another country a half century ago. It is a drastic step.

If they do this, I worry about the precedent this sets and the power it confers on those able to do this.

Re: Ukraine Government email to ICANN (requesting shutdown of .ru root DNS servers)

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> Apart from these measures, I will be sending a separate request to RIPE NCC asking to withdraw the right to use all IPv4 and IPv6 addresses by all Russian members of RIPE NCC (LIRs - Local Internet Registries), and to block the DNS root servers that it is operating. I can't help but think that this is a bit detrimental to average citizens. Am I reading this right? Wouldn't this essentially split the internet at Rus…

The point of sanctions is to be detrimental to average citizens (aka voters) so that they can put pressure on Putin. This suggestion has several other issues though.

That's why sanctions are unjust.

Re: Ukraine Government email to ICANN (requesting shutdown of .ru root DNS servers)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The point of sanctions is to be detrimental to average citizens (aka voters) so that they can put pressure on Putin. This suggestion has several other issues though.

That's why sanctions are unjust.

You'd rather we bomb them instead?

Re: Ukraine Government email to ICANN (requesting shutdown of .ru root DNS servers)

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> Apart from these measures, I will be sending a separate request to RIPE NCC asking to withdraw the right to use all IPv4 and IPv6 addresses by all Russian members of RIPE NCC (LIRs - Local Internet Registries), and to block the DNS root servers that it is operating. I can't help but think that this is a bit detrimental to average citizens. Am I reading this right? Wouldn't this essentially split the internet at Rus…

The point of sanctions is to be detrimental to average citizens (aka voters) so that they can put pressure on Putin. This suggestion has several other issues though.

>The point of sanctions is to be detrimental to average citizens (aka voters) so that they can put pressure on Putin.

This presumes fair and open elections

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