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Re: Radiation spikes in Chernobyl

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They will breath the dust and get some internal radiation though. Not really a problem for the others if they move after that, but not very good for them.

One might argue that’s a price you pay when murdering innocent civilians in land that isn’t yours, no?

Yeah, but Putin's not the one breathing it - the foot soldiers are.

Re: Radiation spikes in Chernobyl

#112

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I fail to see what purpose posting gore such as this serves. Nobody needs proof that war is bad.

It needs to be shared and break through cognitive dissonance.

So many people sit comfortably in their chairs at home opining and spew thoughts online without any real idea of how bad things really are.

This is real life.

Re: Radiation spikes in Chernobyl

#113
post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They will breath the dust and get some internal radiation though. Not really a problem for the others if they move after that, but not very good for them.

One might argue that’s a price you pay when murdering innocent civilians in land that isn’t yours, no?

Not to be a apologist of what Russia is doing (really really against the current invasion/occupation) but from what we've seen around social media, it's not clear that the actual soldiers on the ground understand that they aren't "liberating" the Ukrainians from actual Nazis. They are fed misinformation on a daily basis and at least some of them see themselves as the "good guys".

It does not excuse anything really, but I wouldn't wish them pulmonary cancer.

Re: Radiation spikes in Chernobyl

#114
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Russians came from Belarus and with their tanks disrupt the radioactive soil and create dust [1]. The internal systems and the reactors themselves are in nominal state without changes. 1. https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-says-chernobyl-radia...

According to https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/ukraine/chernobyl/histor... , there was light rain in Chernobyl since Thursday. This should reduce the dust hypothesis, no?

Re: Radiation spikes in Chernobyl

#115

What strategic purpose would taking Chernobyl have other than maybe securing the site and preventing someone from blowing a hole in the sarcophagus?

Isn’t it still generating electricity (with the reactors that didn’t melt down) for the region despite everything? I guess as an invader, you’d want to control the power plant.

Wikipedia says all the other reactors were used for some time after the accident, some for quite some time, but now all reactors at the site have been shut down.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_Nuclear_Power_Plant#...

Re: Radiation spikes in Chernobyl

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post #114
post #3

Russians came from Belarus and with their tanks disrupt the radioactive soil and create dust [1]. The internal systems and the reactors themselves are in nominal state without changes. 1. https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-says-chernobyl-radia...

According to https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/ukraine/chernobyl/histor... , there was light rain in Chernobyl since Thursday. This should reduce the dust hypothesis, no?

It depends on the particular isotopes, most aren't water soluble but some would precipitate out of the air on rain. So it's hard to say.

Re: Radiation spikes in Chernobyl

#117
post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One might argue that’s a price you pay when murdering innocent civilians in land that isn’t yours, no?

Not to be a apologist of what Russia is doing (really really against the current invasion/occupation) but from what we've seen around social media, it's not clear that the actual soldiers on the ground understand that they aren't "liberating" the Ukrainians from actual Nazis. They are fed misinformation on a daily basis and at least some of them see themselves as the "good guys". It does not excuse anything really, b…

It's typical that troops are kept in the dark about mission details.

Re: Radiation spikes in Chernobyl

#119
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So, the Russian soldiers are all probably breathing this dust and their equipment will spread it to where ever they deploy in Ukraine? That doesn't sound good at all.

Considering that they're mostly just passing by, and that the levels are not really high, it won't be that bad. I didn't do the math, but the radiation levels for driving past there, or staying there for a day or two, would probably be very low, and comparable to a lot of other stuff we do without thinking (plane rides, xrays etc.)

They aren't just passing by. There's an ongoing fight for the control over this terrain. And, in the unlikely event of Russian troops retreating, I wouldn't put past Russia bombing it.

Re: Radiation spikes in Chernobyl

#120

Imagine this for a movie plot Russia stages the invasion as a cover to recover something from deep under Chernobyl What do you think that thing might be....

They bored straight into hell (an actual recent movie that came out The Superdeep)

edit: that's not a spoiler btw, the plot is pretty neat

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