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Re: Radiation spikes in Chernobyl

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Post by perihelions »

mtmail wrote: post #6
perihelions wrote: post #5

- "Data from the automated radiation monitoring system of the exclusion zone, which is available online," Where is this official source?

One of the screenshots is https://www.saveecobot.com/en/radiation-maps#11/51.3463/30.1... (related discussion https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30461521 )

This HN comment says archive.org never saw that radiation map before yesterday:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30462247

I tried some further searches: Google didn't crawl the subdomain /en/radiation-maps before 2022, nor did the see the string "saveecobot.com/en/radiation-maps" anywhere on the internet.

Re: Radiation spikes in Chernobyl

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Post by dtx1 »

anshumankmr wrote: post #2

There's a followup tweet with a possible explanation: https://twitter.com/WillyWaugh/status/1497157722663391233 Though I am not 100% sure of this since the USSR had removed the topsoil back then but I suppose more of it could have spewed back in to the soil over time.

I was in chernobyl, you could pick up reactor core debris everywhere there by just looking for it with a dosimeter for a few minutes.

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Post by sp332 »

ugjka wrote: post #9
anshumankmr wrote: post #2

There's a followup tweet with a possible explanation: https://twitter.com/WillyWaugh/status/1497157722663391233 Though I am not 100% sure of this since the USSR had removed the topsoil back then but I suppose more of it could have spewed back in to the soil over time.

I don't think they removed the top soil for the whole exclusion zone, that'd be an insane feat

From 1986: https://www.upi.com/Archives/1986/12/02/Workers-have-removed... They removed the topsoil from Pripyat. It wasn't perfect, but they pushed it into 800 trenches. https://xcdsystem.com/wmsym/archives//2013/papers/13526.pdf

Re: Radiation spikes in Chernobyl

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Post by elil17 »

perihelions wrote: post #5

- "Data from the automated radiation monitoring system of the exclusion zone, which is available online," Where is this official source?

Not the source shown, but the Ukrainian Parliament has tweeted a similar radiation map: https://twitter.com/ua_parliament/status/1497108007863435279

Re: Radiation spikes in Chernobyl

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Post by perihelions »

elil17 wrote: post #14
perihelions wrote: post #5

- "Data from the automated radiation monitoring system of the exclusion zone, which is available online," Where is this official source?

Not the source shown, but the Ukrainian Parliament has tweeted a similar radiation map: https://twitter.com/ua_parliament/status/1497108007863435279

Yes, that's the tweet I quoted and am asking about.

(It's the tweet that's double-RT'd by the tweet that's the HN submission).

Re: Radiation spikes in Chernobyl

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Post by newsclues »

sschueller wrote: post #17

What strategic purpose would taking Chernobyl have other than maybe securing the site and preventing someone from blowing a hole in the sarcophagus?

You hold a position to launch attacks from that are hard to counter attack.

Setup your artillery there and they can’t just shell the area back out of fear of causing a nuclear disaster.

IMO, the UN should have stepped in and taken control of the nuclear zone. There is a global risk here.

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