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Re: On the removal of Come Back Alive

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Post by syshum »

moron4hire wrote: post #291
syshum wrote: post #69

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I would but then i would be labeled an "insurrectionist" and possibly have my ability to transact in the every day life removed... the US, Canada, and most of the "West" is trying very hard to make Liberty and freedom protest illegal, you can only protest some topics, and some actions by government and only with the approval of government that your protesting is OK

I feel like if you don't literally break into the seat of government, smash stuff, kill a cop, or take a literal shit on the floor you'll be just fine.

What if you are let in by police (police actually holding the doors open as is seen on multiple camera's), walk through the building peacefully and unrelated to that a police office has a medical event that sadly costs him his life...

Because that was the experience for 90%+ of people... the less then 10% should be prosecuted, that actually committed property crimes.

Then you have Canada... which was a 100% peaceful protest.

Re: On the removal of Come Back Alive

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Post by app4soft »

yalogin wrote: post #302
app4soft wrote: post #270

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> I know emotions are running high in this thread but asking to educate myself. I hope You would learn something from today's message by Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine on situation where few Ukrainian kindergartens shelled by Russian rocket strikes : > Today’s Russian attacks on a kindergarten and an orphanage are war crimes and violations of the Rome Statute. Together with the General Prosecutor’s Office we…

Oh no! I am against any Russian aggression and the atrocities they are committing. This is terrible. Please understand that I am only trying to understand the approach that organization was taking with the charity, never questioning how evil Putin is or that he needs to be held accountable.

> I am only trying to understand

I just hope you would be able to understand feeling of Ukrainian 14-year-old girl, killed by Russian missile yesterday on the street of Uman city, Cherkasy region, Ukraine.[0]

[0] https://twitter.com/app4soft/status/1497242681981882371

Re: On the removal of Come Back Alive

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Post by exikyut »

exikyut wrote: post #323
praptak wrote: post #166

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Anybody can confirm whether ukraine.ua is legit? Their SSL certificate is issued to sni.cloudflaressl.com, which says nothing about whoever owns ukraine.ua. I'd say this one looks a bit more legit: https://bank.gov.ua/en/news/all/natsionalniy-bank-vidkriv-sp...

Googling the IBAN (UA458201720313281002302018611) finds search results [1] from sites including treasury.gov.ua [2], mil.gov.ua [3] and 24tv.ua [4]. I currently see only 23 results for the IBAN code, but I blame this on the newness/novelty of the information and a suspicion that Google's keyword indexing engine doesn't particularly like rare/unique terms (both when parsing queries and tokenizing page content). Googli…

Realized just as the edit window elapsed (Arc ate my revised text!! noo) - [12] should be [12,15] (I got them the wrong way around and I can't renumber them now), and [13,14] was supposed to go after "encoded redundantly into the IBAN [13,14]".

First time using this citation format (keeping track of numbers is fun O.o), I typically insert links inline but I expected my comment would have been unread(able) in that case :)

Re: On the removal of Come Back Alive

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Post by shaolinspirit »

basisword wrote: post #35

Seems sensible. Private companies shouldn't be funding wars, particularly wars overseas from where they are based. The Ukrainian's need help but this should be coming from government's, not private citizens through a private foreign company. I feel like this shouldn't be controversial at all.

when you are starving and finally get a loaf of bread but still die from hunger because you don't have knife to cut it. because somewhere it is written that you SHOULD cut bread with knife. how pedantic

Re: On the removal of Come Back Alive

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Post by decafninja »

nostrebored wrote: post #303
sethd wrote: post #301

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> Ukraine is not a tiny nation, and Russia is huge. The Vietnamese successfully fought off multiple foreign invaders over past centuries against armies more powerful and advanced than theirs.

With the stipulation that there were some punches the USA wasn’t willing to throw. Russia has seen this and Russia has seen Aleppo. Russia committing to this means that they are okay with doing what they need to for a decisive and quick victory.

This.

The US is certainly no saint in combat. However I will say it is arguably much more sensitive towards at least trying to avoid collateral damage. Russia, and autocracies in general, are probably much more willing to inflict total war because they simply do not have to be as accountable to their publics as a democratic government.

Re: On the removal of Come Back Alive

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Post by exikyut »

hans1729 wrote: post #107
mickael-kerjean wrote: post #27

Russian visitors of my foss project ( https://www.filestash.app/ ) now see the message of peace address to them by president Zelenskyy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fwzb_JX7u04

FYI, after opening your page in the same tab (by accident) as HN, I couldn’t get back to HN, going back a page just ended up looping back to your site. I absolutely hate when websites do that (messing with expected behavior), please consider fixing it. (On iOS)

Either this was fixed 4 hours after your comment was posted, or the issue doesn't surface on Chrome on Linux or Android. I opened the site by clicking the link in the GP comment.

Re: On the removal of Come Back Alive

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Post by mdoms »

HideousKojima wrote: post #314
app4soft wrote: post #270

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> I know emotions are running high in this thread but asking to educate myself. I hope You would learn something from today's message by Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine on situation where few Ukrainian kindergartens shelled by Russian rocket strikes : > Today’s Russian attacks on a kindergarten and an orphanage are war crimes and violations of the Rome Statute. Together with the General Prosecutor’s Office we…

As horrific as that is, that sort of stuff happens in wars all the time. It's so common that it even has its own fancy word to make it sound less horrific: collateral damage. That said, unless Russia was intentionally targeting the kindergarten (and/or the Russians didn't reasonably believe the kindergarten to be housing enemy troops at the time) I don't really see how that can be treated as a war crime. For the reco…

History will not look kindly on people like you defending the actions of Russia.

Re: On the removal of Come Back Alive

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Post by HideousKojima »

kbelder wrote: post #378
HideousKojima wrote: post #318

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In WW2 several countries invaded by Germany (and the USSR) set up "governments-in-exile" in London, so it certainly isn't unprecedented.

The government of China fled to Hong Kong and is still there today... some people say.

You mean Taiwan

Re: On the removal of Come Back Alive

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Post by HideousKojima »

mdoms wrote: post #387
HideousKojima wrote: post #314

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As horrific as that is, that sort of stuff happens in wars all the time. It's so common that it even has its own fancy word to make it sound less horrific: collateral damage. That said, unless Russia was intentionally targeting the kindergarten (and/or the Russians didn't reasonably believe the kindergarten to be housing enemy troops at the time) I don't really see how that can be treated as a war crime. For the reco…

History will not look kindly on people like you defending the actions of Russia.

What actions exactly have I defended? Awful, horrific shit on scales beyond our comprehension have happened in basically every war in human history, including the deaths of countless innocent civilians. But to count as a war crime, the deaths of civilians has to be intentional (or at least with some level of reckless disregard for the safety of civilians, the standards of proof for which would be extremely high in a war). I've seen no evidence put forward yet that the kindergarten that got shelled was shelled intentionally.

Russia's invasion of Ukraine is morally wrong (and as a sibling comment pointed out, the invasion itself may be a war crime). Deaths of civilians caused by Russia's invasion are not inherently war crimes in and of themselves. It's not like felony murder, where any death caused in the commission of a felony is instantly treated as a murder. Civilian deaths caused by a war of aggression are not inherently war crimes.

Re: On the removal of Come Back Alive

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Post by keymone »

halfmatthalfcat wrote: post #266
keymone wrote: post #258

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want some sanity back? quit supporting fascist regime. all employees are complicit if they continue working while knowing decisions of their leadership.

Me knowing good people at Patreon and vouching for them = supporting Putin and Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Wow, apparently I've been the bad guy the whole time.

Yes, you are and no, they aren’t good people. They are complicit in fascism of Russia. Please pass it on to them - they are sincerely hated and should be ashamed. Unless of course they’ve been protesting and striking.
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