On the removal of Come Back Alive • Hacker News Board

Re: On the removal of Come Back Alive

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Post by tharne » Fri, Feb 25, 2022, 4:33 PM UTC

tablespoon wrote: post #363

KptMarchewa wrote: post #260

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>The US, the most well-funded army in the world for the past generation, hasn't won a war since the end of WW2. That depends on the definition of winning. In many cases, US military won everything militarily, but lost politically.

>> The US, the most well-funded army in the world for the past generation, hasn't won a war since the end of WW2. > That depends on the definition of winning. In many cases, US military won everything militarily, but lost politically. This. It also really, really depends on definitions. Did the US win the Korean war because South Korea still exists, or lose because North Korea still exists?

> Did the US win the Korean war because South Korea still exists, or lose because North Korea still exists?

Neither, the Korean war never officially ended.

Re: On the removal of Come Back Alive

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Post by ZeroGravitas » Fri, Feb 25, 2022, 4:42 PM UTC

HideousKojima wrote: post #314

app4soft wrote: post #270

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> I know emotions are running high in this thread but asking to educate myself. I hope You would learn something from today's message by Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine on situation where few Ukrainian kindergartens shelled by Russian rocket strikes : > Today’s Russian attacks on a kindergarten and an orphanage are war crimes and violations of the Rome Statute. Together with the General Prosecutor’s Office we…

As horrific as that is, that sort of stuff happens in wars all the time. It's so common that it even has its own fancy word to make it sound less horrific: collateral damage. That said, unless Russia was intentionally targeting the kindergarten (and/or the Russians didn't reasonably believe the kindergarten to be housing enemy troops at the time) I don't really see how that can be treated as a war crime. For the reco…

The invasion itself may well be a war crime too (though there are gray areas and Russia has been trying to present itself as on the right side of those lines):

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_aggression

Re: On the removal of Come Back Alive

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Post by T3RMINATED » Fri, Feb 25, 2022, 4:46 PM UTC

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Re: On the removal of Come Back Alive

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Post by Tostino » Fri, Feb 25, 2022, 4:47 PM UTC

tonyedgecombe wrote: post #340

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #277

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Please fix your comment, you're basically saying that Ukraine should just roll over. What happens next? Think before replying, you may come across as a Russia apologist. the Taliban and IS dragged out the conflict in the middle east for 20 years and came out victorious against an army that spent trillions on that conflict. That was after said army was defeated in Vietnam as well.

>the Taliban and IS dragged out the conflict in the middle east for 20 years At what cost? America and their allies would have left a long time ago without the Taliban.

Really think this through...if the Taliban had rolled over and let the US win, then there would be a more "stable" western influenced government in place, which is exactly what they were fighting against the whole time.

Re: On the removal of Come Back Alive

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Post by weird-eye-issue » Fri, Feb 25, 2022, 5:08 PM UTC

stavros wrote: post #369

weird-eye-issue wrote: post #336

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Well how do you think they got Cloudflare to issue a cert on their behalf? By proving ownership of the domain...

They aren't doubting that the people who set up CloudFlare didn't own the domain, they're saying the cert is anonymous.

I guess so, it just seemed weird to point out

Re: On the removal of Come Back Alive

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Post by weird-eye-issue » Fri, Feb 25, 2022, 5:09 PM UTC

renewiltord wrote: post #357

weird-eye-issue wrote: post #336

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Well how do you think they got Cloudflare to issue a cert on their behalf? By proving ownership of the domain...

Oh, hang on. Let me get the SSL certificate for “definitelyukrainegovernment.com”. Then you can donate money to the Ukraine gov on that site too.

Well I wouldn't judge the authenticity of a site based on the SSL cert which the OP seemed to do which was my point

Re: On the removal of Come Back Alive

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Post by stavros » Fri, Feb 25, 2022, 5:13 PM UTC

weird-eye-issue wrote: post #375

stavros wrote: post #369

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They aren't doubting that the people who set up CloudFlare didn't own the domain, they're saying the cert is anonymous.

I guess so, it just seemed weird to point out

Not really, seeing who the certificate was issued to is a good way of figuring out whom the site belongs to (or at least it was, before Let's Encrypt).

Re: On the removal of Come Back Alive

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Post by kbelder » Fri, Feb 25, 2022, 5:16 PM UTC

HideousKojima wrote: post #318

sam0x17 wrote: post #294

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Are we even at a point now where money can make a difference? It seems like within 2-3 days the existing governmental structure will be seized, along with (I assume) funds that are being donated. Is it plausible that Ukrainian gov officials will retreat into NATO territory and continue to coordinate resistance from there, along with the still-pouring-in funds, or is that a pipe dream?

In WW2 several countries invaded by Germany (and the USSR) set up "governments-in-exile" in London, so it certainly isn't unprecedented.

The government of China fled to Hong Kong and is still there today... some people say.

Re: On the removal of Come Back Alive

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Post by renewiltord » Fri, Feb 25, 2022, 5:19 PM UTC

weird-eye-issue wrote: post #376

renewiltord wrote: post #357

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Oh, hang on. Let me get the SSL certificate for “definitelyukrainegovernment.com”. Then you can donate money to the Ukraine gov on that site too.

Well I wouldn't judge the authenticity of a site based on the SSL cert which the OP seemed to do which was my point

Ohhhh. I see now what you meant.

Re: On the removal of Come Back Alive

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Post by lykahb » Fri, Feb 25, 2022, 5:22 PM UTC

Patreon takes a cut of 5-12%. This is okay for the content distribution platforms, but it is outrageous for the charities.

Donate directly to the Come Back Alive and the army https://bank.gov.ua/en/news/all/natsionalniy-bank-vidkriv-sp.... The last link lists the account numbers for many currencies.