Jeez, am I one of the few people here who liked the demo? I thought the performance was comparable to my aging Pixelbook. I liked the design too.
Pangolin desktop environment for Fuchsia and Linux written in Flutter
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Re: Pangolin desktop environment for Fuchsia and Linux written in Flutter
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Hopefully removable. I find window title bars to be a waste of space.
But how do you know what application you're looking at without a title bar? /s
You’re joking about the lack of a title to tell you the name of the app, but not knowing which window has focus (thanks to titlebar shading) is a real problem. Microsoft completely disabled the coloring of the active window in Windows 10, then caved and re-added it as an off-by-default option. I can’t live without it on.
Re: Pangolin desktop environment for Fuchsia and Linux written in Flutter
#63Man, the HN crowd is tough. Folks here don't seem to like anything other than Win95 UI.
I personally found the UI to be very slick and pretty. It seems very similar to Win11 and looks rather pretty. Would love to give it a try.
Re: Pangolin desktop environment for Fuchsia and Linux written in Flutter
#64Demo: https://web.dahliaos.io/#home The UI is still quite slow. Hard to get excited about Flutter.
> The UI is still quite slow. Can you share your computer specs and what browser you're using? It's buttery smooth on both my Windows desktop and Mac laptop, though both are relatively new. On my 5+ year old 1.1GHz MacBook it's still entirely usable. Dragging windows around isn't entirely fluid, but it's not that bad for such an underpowered machine.
On my Windows workstation with a Ryzen 5800X and an RTX 3080, it is a stuttery mess on Firefox. Dragging windows happens at maybe 10 FPS, and there's half a second of input latency on everything.
Re: Pangolin desktop environment for Fuchsia and Linux written in Flutter
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I agree. Every Flutter app I've ever used has been noticeably janky. The absolute worst is the UI for the Google Home Hub which runs at about three frames per second and is incredibly unresponsive to touch and button input. It's as frustrating to use as the touchscreen navigation system displays in old cars, the ones with resistive touchscreens. I like a lot of things about Flutter, but how did they develop a complet…
I interviewed with one of the flutter engineers. After a casual talk with him on how they were doing the rendering, while interesting, I had a feeling that fluter will fail. It reminded me a bit of all the HTML 5.0 on mobile efforts back in 2011-2014, which mostly failed. (React Native, was an offshoot of those earlier efforts, but even that is being slowly abandoned by the industry now). That's what you get your com…
> not super strong at design well thought out rendering techniques.
Can you expound on this?
Re: Pangolin desktop environment for Fuchsia and Linux written in Flutter
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#67Please don't use or support Flutter. Its entire existence is to replace the web and force more ads to people. Do your research.
Do you have any citations to support this claim? Flutter is open source.
How it being an open source would help ad blocking on the client side? It certainly won't be as easy as current blocking methods for html/css/js.
Re: Pangolin desktop environment for Fuchsia and Linux written in Flutter
#68Please don't use or support Flutter. Its entire existence is to replace the web and force more ads to people. Do your research.
"Do your research" coupled with unsourced assertions is always an interesting argument :) As the product lead for Flutter, I can assure you that this isn't an accurate statement. The product is several years old now, and we only added ads support in the last three months, in response to customer requests ( https://github.com/flutter/flutter/issues/12114 ). Flutter is open source, welcomes non-Google contributors, and…
Off topic: any plans for Delphi-like GUI RAD IDE? When I see some non-trivial Flutter UI code - it ought to have been generated by machine.
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Re: Pangolin desktop environment for Fuchsia and Linux written in Flutter
#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you have any citations to support this claim? Flutter is open source.
How it being an open source would help ad blocking on the client side? It certainly won't be as easy as current blocking methods for html/css/js.
You know it’s ok to say “I’ve made an emotional baseless assertion backed up with no evidence”.
I hate google as much as next person on HN, but at least have some evidence.