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Pangolin desktop environment for Fuchsia and Linux written in Flutter

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Re: Pangolin desktop environment for Fuchsia and Linux written in Flutter

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Post by xedrac »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #16
didip wrote: post #15

Demo: https://web.dahliaos.io/#home The UI is still quite slow. Hard to get excited about Flutter.

> The UI is still quite slow. Can you share your computer specs and what browser you're using? It's buttery smooth on both my Windows desktop and Mac laptop, though both are relatively new. On my 5+ year old 1.1GHz MacBook it's still entirely usable. Dragging windows around isn't entirely fluid, but it's not that bad for such an underpowered machine.

Perhaps we have different ideas of what constitutes "buttery smooth". I find the performance usable but sluggish. I think many people have become accustomed to this kind of performance though. Regardless, I find the design of the UI quite appealing.

AMD® Ryzen 9 5950x, 32 GB RAM, Linux/Fedora 35, Firefox 97.0, Chromium 96.0.4664.110

Re: Pangolin desktop environment for Fuchsia and Linux written in Flutter

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Post by von_lohengramm »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #16
didip wrote: post #15

Demo: https://web.dahliaos.io/#home The UI is still quite slow. Hard to get excited about Flutter.

> The UI is still quite slow. Can you share your computer specs and what browser you're using? It's buttery smooth on both my Windows desktop and Mac laptop, though both are relatively new. On my 5+ year old 1.1GHz MacBook it's still entirely usable. Dragging windows around isn't entirely fluid, but it's not that bad for such an underpowered machine.

I'm on a 2019 16" MBP 2.6GHz i7 with a 5300M. This machine isn't a powerhouse, but it can drive 1080p240Hz + 1440p144Hz buttery smooth for a million Firefox tabs and a couple IntelliJ projects (if everything's all indexed...). On this site, I get like 10fps while doing things, clicking, moving around, etc. It doesn't even look like motion. I threw it into Firefox's profiler and it has consistent "janks" between 100ms to over 200ms. No thanks.

Re: Pangolin desktop environment for Fuchsia and Linux written in Flutter

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Post by von_lohengramm »

gigglesupstairs wrote: post #2

Design language looks very similar to Windows 11? Not sure if it was intentional since it must have been in development for a while. Anyways, it’s a very elegant looking environment.

To be fair, Windows 11 did directly rip a ton of its design too, especially from Chrome OS of all things.

Re: Pangolin desktop environment for Fuchsia and Linux written in Flutter

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Post by harel »

didip wrote: post #15

Demo: https://web.dahliaos.io/#home The UI is still quite slow. Hard to get excited about Flutter.

My first impression upon opening this was about how fast and responsive this feels (chrome/linux)... Which actually now makes me more concerned that this experience is not consistent across users and platforms, because this leads to the dangerous "but it works for me" attitude.

Re: Pangolin desktop environment for Fuchsia and Linux written in Flutter

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Post by cdash »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #16
didip wrote: post #15

Demo: https://web.dahliaos.io/#home The UI is still quite slow. Hard to get excited about Flutter.

> The UI is still quite slow. Can you share your computer specs and what browser you're using? It's buttery smooth on both my Windows desktop and Mac laptop, though both are relatively new. On my 5+ year old 1.1GHz MacBook it's still entirely usable. Dragging windows around isn't entirely fluid, but it's not that bad for such an underpowered machine.

Probably a case of having hardware acceleration turned off in the bowser, which at least for me is necessary due to issues with casting chrome windows in things like discord.

Re: Pangolin desktop environment for Fuchsia and Linux written in Flutter

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Post by PragmaticPulp »

xedrac wrote: post #21
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The UI is still quite slow. Can you share your computer specs and what browser you're using? It's buttery smooth on both my Windows desktop and Mac laptop, though both are relatively new. On my 5+ year old 1.1GHz MacBook it's still entirely usable. Dragging windows around isn't entirely fluid, but it's not that bad for such an underpowered machine.

Perhaps we have different ideas of what constitutes "buttery smooth". I find the performance usable but sluggish. I think many people have become accustomed to this kind of performance though. Regardless, I find the design of the UI quite appealing. AMD® Ryzen 9 5950x, 32 GB RAM, Linux/Fedora 35, Firefox 97.0, Chromium 96.0.4664.110

> AMD® Ryzen 9 5950x, 32 GB RAM, Linux/Fedora 35, Firefox 97.0, Chromium 96.0.4664.110

Same CPU in my Windows workstation and it's plenty smooth. Not just usable, but smooth. This is at 4K.

Do you have a modern GPU, or something quite old? Or do you have browser hardware acceleration disabled?

If not for your GPU, it's also possible that Linux simply performs significantly worse than Windows for whatever reason.

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