Please don't use or support Flutter. Its entire existence is to replace the web and force more ads to people. Do your research.
Do you have any citations to support this claim?
Flutter is open source.
Pangolin desktop environment for Fuchsia and Linux written in Flutter
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Re: Pangolin desktop environment for Fuchsia and Linux written in Flutter
#32Design language looks very similar to Windows 11? Not sure if it was intentional since it must have been in development for a while. Anyways, it’s a very elegant looking environment.
I'll agree—it's elegant. The animations are a bit "Flutter-y" and I'm not a fan of Flutter animations in general, but it does look quite nice: https://web.dahliaos.io/ .
Wow, yeah.
That's horrible.
Re: Pangolin desktop environment for Fuchsia and Linux written in Flutter
#33Demo: https://web.dahliaos.io/#home The UI is still quite slow. Hard to get excited about Flutter.
Is there a way to get a terminal to work? I'm interested in Fuchsia and this if I can get a terminal and run make/gcc.
There is a shell in Fuchsia, but it's not a unix, so neither make nor gcc will run natively on it.
Re: Pangolin desktop environment for Fuchsia and Linux written in Flutter
#34I took a quick look at the repo and the most important piece of info is missing: why?
What's the point of this project? More generally, open source projects should really get into the habit of spending a few words on WHY they exist, so people driving by don't have to wreck their brains figuring out why would you care.
Re: Pangolin desktop environment for Fuchsia and Linux written in Flutter
#35I took a quick look at the repo and the most important piece of info is missing: why? What's the point of this project? More generally, open source projects should really get into the habit of spending a few words on WHY they exist, so people driving by don't have to wreck their brains figuring out why would you care.
Probably either just a cool poc or devs sniffing crack
Re: Pangolin desktop environment for Fuchsia and Linux written in Flutter
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is there a way to get a terminal to work? I'm interested in Fuchsia and this if I can get a terminal and run make/gcc.
There is a shell in Fuchsia, but it's not a unix, so neither make nor gcc will run natively on it.
My windows machine can run make and gcc natively. You don't need to be unix to run those platforms. I haven't watched fuchsia closely (last interfaced about 6 years ago, talked to a team member, who said that eventually it would be able to emulate unix enough to build and host a compiler).
I guess I should have put my question in a more useful way: why would I want to use this desktop, given its limitations compared to existing desktops? Is it ever going to be a development system? If not, I can't see how it would grow beyond being a device environment- in which case there probably shouldn't be a terminal anyway. Probably I'm asking for something which is not a goal of fuchsia, but in that case, I really can't get exicted about something that's supposed to replace Android and other OSes.
Re: Pangolin desktop environment for Fuchsia and Linux written in Flutter
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The UI is still quite slow. Can you share your computer specs and what browser you're using? It's buttery smooth on both my Windows desktop and Mac laptop, though both are relatively new. On my 5+ year old 1.1GHz MacBook it's still entirely usable. Dragging windows around isn't entirely fluid, but it's not that bad for such an underpowered machine.
Perhaps we have different ideas of what constitutes "buttery smooth". I find the performance usable but sluggish. I think many people have become accustomed to this kind of performance though. Regardless, I find the design of the UI quite appealing. AMD® Ryzen 9 5950x, 32 GB RAM, Linux/Fedora 35, Firefox 97.0, Chromium 96.0.4664.110
5950X, 32 gigs of RAM, Win10, Firefox 98, 3080Ti (if it's GPU accelerated, I didn't look) and it's super jittery for me. It's usable, but it's not smooth at all. Dragging windows around is pretty bad.
Re: Pangolin desktop environment for Fuchsia and Linux written in Flutter
#38Design language looks very similar to Windows 11? Not sure if it was intentional since it must have been in development for a while. Anyways, it’s a very elegant looking environment.
To be fair, Windows 11 did directly rip a ton of its design too, especially from Chrome OS of all things.
It's not a bad thing to rip off good ideas, though that was not the case with Win 11.
Re: Pangolin desktop environment for Fuchsia and Linux written in Flutter
#39Please don't use or support Flutter. Its entire existence is to replace the web and force more ads to people. Do your research.
"Do your research" coupled with unsourced assertions is always an interesting argument :)
As the product lead for Flutter, I can assure you that this isn't an accurate statement. The product is several years old now, and we only added ads support in the last three months, in response to customer requests (https://github.com/flutter/flutter/issues/12114).
Flutter is open source, welcomes non-Google contributors, and is led by a group of hackers who think that UI development shouldn't be as painful as it is. One might have thought this would be attractive to the kind of developers who hang out on HN :)
Re: Pangolin desktop environment for Fuchsia and Linux written in Flutter
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The UI is still quite slow. Can you share your computer specs and what browser you're using? It's buttery smooth on both my Windows desktop and Mac laptop, though both are relatively new. On my 5+ year old 1.1GHz MacBook it's still entirely usable. Dragging windows around isn't entirely fluid, but it's not that bad for such an underpowered machine.
Perhaps we have different ideas of what constitutes "buttery smooth". I find the performance usable but sluggish. I think many people have become accustomed to this kind of performance though. Regardless, I find the design of the UI quite appealing. AMD® Ryzen 9 5950x, 32 GB RAM, Linux/Fedora 35, Firefox 97.0, Chromium 96.0.4664.110
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