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TextMate 2 is the perfect , yet heartbreaking example of Brook's Second-system effect. It's painful seeing an otherwise successful developer get so completely sucked into it.
Except we haven't even seen TM2 yet. It could be a more svelte, nematodeine, feature-less slice of software. Just because it's taken half an eon for even the beta announcement to come to fruition doesn't mean it's a bloat-ware type scenario. At least I hope it isn't.
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You're making the same faulty assumption that Marco does: that everyone who bought TextMate is a fellow software developer living in a wealthy nation. Many of the "cheapskates in here" are happy to pay twice, but recognize that it's a privilege to be able to do so.
Bro, c'mon now. I hate using this argument, but if you can afford a macbook you can definitely pony up $60 for your main development tool . Dude's running a business, not a charity. Shit, I use vim. If you're so screwed for cash there are a couple of first class alternatives. EDIT: I use a macbook too. I think it's a great dev platform. It only represents about 5% of my yearly income, though. I doubt I'd be using it…
Call me a "cheapskate" if you will, but there's no way I'd pay $60 USD for a text editor with the promise of a free upgrade, and then pay $60 again when the seller decided to renege on that promise.
You make a lot of money. Good for you. Feel free to donate however much you believe appropriate to whatever businesses you'd like but please keep your value judgments about the rest of us to yourself.
Maybe he should use the "pay what you want" pricing concept for upgrades. Anyone who wants his free upgrade can't complain. But he'll end up getting paid some, too.
That way people who can't afford it or otherwise feel entitled to the free upgrade can get it free, and all the moderately wealthy developers who use Textmate every day and can afford it can be guilted into supporting development.
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If you don't mind me asking, why on earth would you do that? 1. Your existing copy of TextMate will continue to work just fine 2. Have you used MacVim recently? Assuming TM2 has a totally painless upgrade path from TM1, you will be spending weeks getting used to vim. Surely, it is cheaper to invest in TM2.
"you will be spending weeks getting used to vim." How in the world would that even be possible? Give it a weekend at most .
A hyperbole, no doubt, but vim is way harder to use than TM.
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He'd know it's not worth finishing before he made it to 2.0. People effectively knew they are paying for both versions, so what's the problem really? $60 is not free - some would spend it, some wouldn't. Why do you think you know better what other people want or don't want to do?
I understand where people who write comments like this are coming from, but I think if you take a step back and think about what Marco is saying, then as a response to Marco this argument is irrational. The fact is that Odgaard has many more lucrative options open to him than living up to an unfavorable pricing commitment from 6 years ago. Meanwhile, your own interests are poorly served by telling him to shove it and…
It's absolutely mundane to have more desirable options than honoring prior commitments. This is true in business, in friendship and even in love. If this weren't the case what would the rational be for people to make commitments and hold each other to them? Surely you can see that there are ideals beyond being "more rational" and breaking one's word at any point it becomes inconvenient?
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I understand where people who write comments like this are coming from, but I think if you take a step back and think about what Marco is saying, then as a response to Marco this argument is irrational. The fact is that Odgaard has many more lucrative options open to him than living up to an unfavorable pricing commitment from 6 years ago. Meanwhile, your own interests are poorly served by telling him to shove it and…
It's difficult to tell whether you're trolling or if you seriously don't realize where exactly you're arguing from. It's absolutely mundane to have more desirable options than honoring prior commitments. This is true in business, in friendship and even in love. If this weren't the case what would the rational be for people to make commitments and hold each other to them? Surely you can see that there are ideals beyon…
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"you will be spending weeks getting used to vim." How in the world would that even be possible? Give it a weekend at most .
Two days just to get used to it. On and off experimentation for the right set of plugins, eventually getting a good vimrc. A very long time before you get proficient. A hyperbole, no doubt, but vim is way harder to use than TM.
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What I was trying to say is that every tool should be evaluated using 'productivity gain vs cost' framework. It may well be that for some people productivity gains of TextMate vs emacs/vim/other editor are small and therefore paying any price for TextMate is unreasonable, since the alternatives are free. But in a case where TextMate does yield to substantial productivity gain, "$60 is too much" is a wrong mental mode…
Couldn't agree more. The fact that so few developers are willing to pay for good tools is why we end up with tools like Eclipse.
I find it depressing that some people in the comments here wouldn't want to pay for a _key tool of their trade_ - assuming they work with texts professionally as programmers, bloggers, designers etc. Even 10% increase in productivity will pay for Textmate license in 10 days, assuming you get at least a minimum wage.
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If someone already paid for TextMate, I think it's fair to assume that they own an Apple computer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_caf%C3%A9 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSx86 I'm not trying to be pedantic here. Both of the above are commonplace in China, for example.