If they really cancel the project that's a much harder stance than I expected Germany to take.
The project isn't cancelled, its certification is halted indefinitely.
Germany shelves Nord Stream 2 pipeline
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#452So, US is happy. I wonder if Germans would be. Germany and all EU countries are US puppets. I really don't know why EU needs US. To me, the one reason I don't like my own homeland, Bulgaria to be in EU (just like more than half of my compatriots don't according to polls) is the dependence on US. We were part of the Soviet Union, so, we replaced one dependence with yet another, even worse, I would say. Being in NATO,…
Bulgaria was part of the Warsaw Pact, not of the Soviet Union.
Maybe you should bone up a bit on recent history, before so confidently spouting off on it? Your current views seem woefully unfounded in actual reality.
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#453Earlier quoted context omitted.
I meant all European democracies I think, temporarily[1] until we get this mess sorted. [1]: In the long run oil and gas prices should probably increase until solar and nuclear power become very profitable.
> I meant all European democracies Russia is also a European democracy. Surprise > I think, temporarily[1] until we get this mess sorted. > [1]: In the long run oil and gas prices should probably increase until solar and nuclear power become very profitable. Won't happen during your lifetime.
Muahahahaa! Wow, man, you're funny!
> Surprise
Yes, indeed: I am surprised anyone with more than a vacuum between their ears could think that.
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Why then build the pipeline in the first place?
Germany didn't bulit it. It was build by Russia through Gazprom in collaboration with few German companies, that care about their profits not Russian tanks in Ukraine. There's nothing wrong making this enterprise to be on par with other routes. German corporations that collaborated gambled on getting unfair business advantage through geopolitics. They should loose. It doesn't matter they had political support of Germ…
And with the despicable traitor not only to Germany but to Europe and arguably civilisation itself, ex-Chancellor Gerhard Schröder, fronting the whole enterprise.
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i am very aware that he is using his brain to process the news he ingests instead of merely copying what he reads
Having looked around the blog for just a bit, it's utterly obvious that he "is using his brain" to be a total fucking Putin troll. Figure out for yourself what that makes you for posting that characterization of him.
someone who gets why putin would act like he does
im just saying that it is in nobodies interest to only accept western views as valid
i can totally see how NATO's continuance and the veto against russia joining might be perceived as a persistent middle finger towards russia.
My opinion: the only reason why the NATO persists to this day, is to bully russia.
The west could have changed their tone along the way, but no. there needs to be a threat, otherwise nobody would need antimissile shields around russias borders. there needs to be someone to point all those weapons at.
Apparently humanity needs a common aggressor, I hope there will be an alien invasion of world ending proportions, otherwise I doubt we will ever get our shit together and overcome our differences.
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How am I going to heat my house?
heat pump and solar. cheaper and less risky.
b) Heat pump (installation, retrofitting existing heat distribution, if at all possible; largest problems might arise with wall mounted radiators since they much larger temperatures to operate) is very costly. Maintenance and running costs not so much.
c) Electricity prices even at the current tarriffs are not cheaper than CNG. This comes from data comparing data on similar volume and insulation buildings using heatpump and CNG heating. That will most likely change in favour of electricity, though its generation from natural gas is really popular around here. d) To change the type of heating from CNG to something else en-masse would require extreme financial, labor and supply expenses.
I'm pro giving up on the Russian CGN because I do not depend on it and I can offset price hikes. But assuming that would not be without major economic and other consequences is a nonsense.
Edit: formatting and a typo.
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#458Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is it more nuanced though? The moment separatists started taking over Ukrainian territory, they should've attempted to take that back. Whether they were unable to or not willing to, as you suggest, now things are a lot worse. Either way it was a strategic failure, so yes, they did fail to protect their borders even back then.
> The moment separatists started taking over Ukrainian territory, they should've attempted to take that back. Where have you been from June to August of 2014?
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Ukraine is still a kleptocracy. The money would be largely stolen. Also, there is no such thing as "irrevocably". Ukraine had just such irrevocable security guarantees granted when they agreed to let go of their nuclear inheritance. There is no way to stop a determined despot via diplomacy or economical pressures. Putin is trying to replicate the first few years of Hitler's intimidation blitz and the world would do w…
> Ukraine is still a kleptocracy. That's true but it's true of any country to one degree of another. European union has a lot of mechanism for preventing misapplication of funds it awards to countries. > Putin is trying to replicate the first few years of Hitler's intimidation blitz and the world would do well to not appease him in any way. That's pure BS straight from the mouths of propagandist of USA military indus…
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> Russia is also a European democracy. Surprise Nasty surprises seem to happen to people who credibly oppose Putin. Without free press and free speech, elections don't mean much.
> Nasty surprises seem to happen to people who credibly oppose Putin I believe, they just don't have/don't want to spend money on showing a real election circus, like in US. Russia is a poor country and making people believe that a cross in a white form means something if you are not a billionaire and can't get billionaires to support you with money, costs a lot. You have "free press" and "free speech" in the interne…
And the argument "we're too poor to be a democracy" is bullshit. The real issue is that the country is too corrupt to be a democracy. (The US also has this problem, but to a much lesser extent. Well, somewhat lesser, at least. Trump has certainly has certainly tried to follow Putin there.)
And of course the country is too oppressed to be a democracy. You can't have meaningful elections if you don't have free speech and free press.