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Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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Post by nickpp »

jacobolus wrote: post #48
ripvanwinkle wrote: post #32

To some extent this situation feels analogous to a street mugging happening in very slow motion The thug accosts the victim, threatens and then proceeds to assault the victim in full view of a large number of bystanders who are numerous enough to defend the victim and alter the outcome but not convicted enough to take on the inconvenience of doing so. Nevertheless all the bystanders voice words of encouragement and s…

When the thug has nuclear weapons, responses get a lot trickier.

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Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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Post by csee »

wyager wrote: post #26
dealforager wrote: post #8

I've worked at tech companies that despise helping the US military. Please understand that the world is complex and although all superpowers have done terrible things, helping the US is the only way our children will live in a peaceful world. This isn't about democrats or republicans, the future of humanity will be decided in the next decade.

Nuclear proliferation, like it or not, has done more for global peace than US military/trade hegemony. Ukraine gave up all its nukes in the 90s which is why this is happening now.

It does a lot for global peace right up until our extinction. We don't need thousands of nukes to maintain deterrence. We should reduce our nuclear stockpile to the smallest number that still maintains deterrence.

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Post by Pelam »

ripvanwinkle wrote: post #32

To some extent this situation feels analogous to a street mugging happening in very slow motion The thug accosts the victim, threatens and then proceeds to assault the victim in full view of a large number of bystanders who are numerous enough to defend the victim and alter the outcome but not convicted enough to take on the inconvenience of doing so. Nevertheless all the bystanders voice words of encouragement and s…

Well said. Additionally and even more sadly, in this case the thug has a strapped on bomb belt powerful enough to kill everybody.

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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Post by tehjoker »

MattGaiser wrote: post #63
mysecretaccount wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Will the people downvoting this comment mind telling me what is wrong with it? I'm not a Russian apologist, just a fan of history, and am trying to understand why so many people reject this narrative. edit: Now I am downvoted too just for asking..? This just makes me think that there is not a solid answer?

For one thing, NATO does not propose membership, something Russians seem to think though [0]. Countries apply to join. [0] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/04/ex-nato-head-s...

That's a really literal way of looking at the world. For major decisions, usually there is discussion and understanding (and possibly carrots thrown in) before an application is submitted. It's not like sending resumes into an HR black hole.

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Post by asdff »

zionic wrote: post #42
wyager wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nuclear proliferation, like it or not, has done more for global peace than US military/trade hegemony. Ukraine gave up all its nukes in the 90s which is why this is happening now.

They gave up those nukes with the promise we would protect them. That trick of ours won’t work again.

We would protect them. If Russia nuked Kyev goodbye surface of the earth. Likewise if Ukraine still had nukes and sent one at moscow.

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Post by f3ljk »

rdtsc wrote: post #69
xwdv wrote: post #28

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> Where is the best place to invest money as the market falls? No sense in letting a crisis go to waste. There is an invasion with innocent people in the the line fire and you’re worried where to be invest to profit from it. Kinda hoping it was sarcasm, but suspect it wasn’t…

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Post by friedman23 »

This is a tragedy. This is what we get for enabling weak willed leaders and appeasers. People like to joke when basketball players go and visit dictatorships and companies do business with mass murderers. Well here is the result. Another war and more death. We need to have zero tolerance for these psychopathic dictators and their families. Full embargoes. Isolate them to their tiny hell holes and never let them leave.

Fuck the "economy". Freedom is the most important thing, how many more millions need to die before we understand this?

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