Has China weighed in at all?
Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack
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#62I've worked at tech companies that despise helping the US military. Please understand that the world is complex and although all superpowers have done terrible things, helping the US is the only way our children will live in a peaceful world. This isn't about democrats or republicans, the future of humanity will be decided in the next decade.
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#63I am for keeping Ukraine as a neutral buffer separating Russia and the US. NATO proposed Ukrainian and Georgian membership of NATO in 2005-2008, in the clear knowledge that this would destabilize the situation. France, Germany, and others were against this. The proposal began the issue. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJBQikfYyKs We then openly backed the 2014 putsch in Kiev, an open act of aggression just as irrespo…
Will the people downvoting this comment mind telling me what is wrong with it? I'm not a Russian apologist, just a fan of history, and am trying to understand why so many people reject this narrative. edit: Now I am downvoted too just for asking..? This just makes me think that there is not a solid answer?
For one thing, NATO does not propose membership, something Russians seem to think though [0]. Countries apply to join.
[0] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/04/ex-nato-head-s...
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#64I believe order and chaos are the two most predominate forces in nature. Russia is a very chaotic nation (granted they made the RD-180 rocket engines, but they murdered Korolev) Life favors the ordered.
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#66It’s sad but my father always told me that the good times we’ve had are unprecedented and they can end faster than we think. I never believed him growing up, institutions and America seemed infallible. It’s sad to say but I think with global warming, covid, and the general decline of American soft power we’ll see more and more global turmoil My heart goes out to Ukraine and its people
Is this any different than any other military intervention America watched idly over the past century? Not really. In the "infallible" 1970s-1990s you might be remembering, we were casually ignoring plenty of similar actions around the world that make this present intervention seem pretty benign and slow moving. American soft power was over when the failure of the Korean war made it clear that all that could be done against a major nuclear power is a stalemate.
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#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nuclear proliferation, like it or not, has done more for global peace than US military/trade hegemony. Ukraine gave up all its nukes in the 90s which is why this is happening now.
They gave up those nukes with the promise we would protect them. That trick of ours won’t work again.
It's funny, or maybe sad, how so many people did not see this coming. All the propaganda and social engineering to get Biden associated with Ukraine so that when he tried to throw his hat in the ring, his own country will be alarmed.
Going to end up looking like a fucking 9000 IQ play by Russia here, but hopefully the world proves me wrong.
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#68I await the Russian trolls to tell us that this is all Western propaganda.
Yep, just a week ago they were in "ridicule west for saying that the attack is cominh". Biden was right all the time.
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> Where is the best place to invest money as the market falls? No sense in letting a crisis go to waste.
There is an invasion with innocent people in the the line fire and you’re worried where to be invest to profit from it.
Kinda hoping it was sarcasm, but suspect it wasn’t…
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#70I just woke up to this news and I'm wondering if it's possible for Apple and Google to brick all Russian phones? This would probably be more effective on their population at large than any form of sanctions.
Congratulations! You bring an idea to brick all Russian phones including phones of opposition, people who against the war, political prisoners, and other people who just live in the country.
Russia is not a democracy. What its people want is irrelevant. They have no meaningful agency.