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Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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After seeing posts like this on HN for years, this one officially scared me enough to completely migrate off Gmail altogether. I’m in the process right now of removing my gmail from any online account. Pro-tip: if you use a password manager, it’s as easy as searching for your Gmail address. For all other accounts, I’ve been able to find them by searching for the phrases “verify your email” or “verify email” or “verif…

Just gonna throw Migadu in here as a mail host. Everyone loves Fastmail, which is cool - I'm an ex-happy-user - but Migadu's point of difference is their pricing. Whereas Fastmail charges by the user/month (or did when I was there), which can add up quickly if you've got a bunch of domains, Migadu does not. They charge by volume. You can add as many domains and mailboxes as you like. For some use cases - mine, and li…

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Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Back up everything in G-Suite outside of Google . If your Youtube account is connected to your G-Suite services they are at risk as well. Geo dispersed NAS is probably the most cost effective long term but for now the important thing is getting data off Google services before you lose it forever. So take a look at other cloud providers in the short term. The more you interact with Google and ask questions the more li…

This cross-connection of services scares me as well. I once happily ordered a Pixel phone using my gmail account. The phone was stolen before delivery (the delivery guy handed me an empty box with a hole in it!). I reported the situation to Google and they could confirm with the parcel company the delivery was not completed successfully (plus some additional background checks they did after requesting access to my ac…

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Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

#274

After seeing posts like this on HN for years, this one officially scared me enough to completely migrate off Gmail altogether. I’m in the process right now of removing my gmail from any online account. Pro-tip: if you use a password manager, it’s as easy as searching for your Gmail address. For all other accounts, I’ve been able to find them by searching for the phrases “verify your email” or “verify email” or “verif…

I'm not sure what the situation described above has to do with Gmail and migrating off of it. OP was storing hundreds of videos, probably against Youtube ToS, to run their business. Pretty sure unlisted videos can't run ads either, so they were basically using Youtube as a free hosting service for their business.

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

#275

Mea Culpa I'm in the industry. I knew we should have had backups. She is brilliant but not technical and while the backups would have been expensive and difficult due to size, I should have built multiple NAS and distributed them geographically and used Syncthing to keep them updated. To be clear we were legacy G-suite users and have converted to paying customers, so it was a free service while this happened, and is…

Probably not that expensive. Vimeo cheapest plan is $7/month (w/ limits) and $50 for unlimited plan and cloud storage (for backup) is cost competitive. Even having it on a local disk would probably be enough. But... it's not your fault. It's just that despite the propaganda these companies don't give a fuck about their users.

cost competitive against free? lol

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

#276

Mea Culpa I'm in the industry. I knew we should have had backups. She is brilliant but not technical and while the backups would have been expensive and difficult due to size, I should have built multiple NAS and distributed them geographically and used Syncthing to keep them updated. To be clear we were legacy G-suite users and have converted to paying customers, so it was a free service while this happened, and is…

AWS Glacier or some similar service on Azure. Super cheap. Cloudflare will store and stream 1000 minutes for $6 a month.

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Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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I have added contact information, sorry about that, take out reports less than one megabyte. "Unable to access a Google product If you've been redirected to this page from a particular product, it means that your access to this product has been suspended." This is so incredibly frustrating. I wish I had asked on hacker news before trying for so long to get a response from google.

Just thinking out loud, I wonder if this falls afoul of the GDPR for users in the EU in any way. This "access is blocked" position kind of leaves hanging whether data has explicitly been retained or deleted; so in scenarios where a user could demonstrate incontrovertible proof that they uploaded some information to a service and did not delete it, it would be interesting to see if the user could leverage freedom-of-i…

I think GDPR rules would be cleared with Google effectively deleting all the data, which could be their laziest solution to a legal request…

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

#278
post #97

How many more pleas like this will we see on HN? Or, hear from friends, colleagues, and relatives who have been locked out or denied access to an important service, either through no fault of their own or by an innocent action? No warning. No explanation other than "suspicious activity" or "violation of [vaguely worded] policy." No human to call who can help troubleshoot, other than a tech-savvy friend or relative. N…

I am wondering if some people could share that used the usually venues of recourse which are going through the legal system:

1.) Letting a lawyer contact Google and then suing them.

2.) Using regulations such as GDPR to ask for correction of data about yourself and/or challenging the automated decision about yourself.

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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I had a very poor experience with migrating off Migadu when they dropped their free tier. It completely soured me off them forever.

Can you elaborate? Were you using something like IMAP sync and having trouble or are you moreso talking about timelines and their comms?

Moreso timeline and comms. First e-mail communication I got regarding sunsetting of the plan was a section at the bottom of a length e-mail announcing pricing changes sent on August 28, 2020.

The e-mail announced that on October 1st 2020, free tier would be sunset, and immediately locked until upgrade to a paid account.

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

#280

After seeing posts like this on HN for years, this one officially scared me enough to completely migrate off Gmail altogether. I’m in the process right now of removing my gmail from any online account. Pro-tip: if you use a password manager, it’s as easy as searching for your Gmail address. For all other accounts, I’ve been able to find them by searching for the phrases “verify your email” or “verify email” or “verif…

Just gonna throw Migadu in here as a mail host. Everyone loves Fastmail, which is cool - I'm an ex-happy-user - but Migadu's point of difference is their pricing. Whereas Fastmail charges by the user/month (or did when I was there), which can add up quickly if you've got a bunch of domains, Migadu does not. They charge by volume. You can add as many domains and mailboxes as you like. For some use cases - mine, and li…

Sounds like a similar pricing model to MxRoute, who I've been quite happy with.
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