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Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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> "the cloud" isn't a panacea for your storage needs. Except that is exactly how cloud companies market themselves. That is exactly what cloud companies have been telling consumers for a decade+. Right up to the point of commercials showing someone lose a device and saying “no worries, it’s all in the cloud!”, etc. We’ve been told for years that our data is safer in the cloud than it is on our own devices. That the c…

Youtube isn't "the cloud". It's an entertainment provider like TV, it's not really something you mistake for backup of your stuff.

Maybe to the more technical crowd that’s true. But to the average person uploading their videos to YouTube it most definitely is.

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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After seeing posts like this on HN for years, this one officially scared me enough to completely migrate off Gmail altogether. I’m in the process right now of removing my gmail from any online account.

Pro-tip: if you use a password manager, it’s as easy as searching for your Gmail address. For all other accounts, I’ve been able to find them by searching for the phrases “verify your email” or “verify email” or “verification” in Gmail.

Just imagining the nightmare that would happen if I got locked out of my Gmail account (10 years of accounts)…I can’t believe I didn’t do it sooner.

You can also do a full export of your Google data, which I highly recommend.

Switched to fastmail recently for my personal domain and could not be happier with the service. It costs money every month, so they have actual human support if anything goes wrong.

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "the cloud" isn't a panacea for your storage needs. Except that is exactly how cloud companies market themselves. That is exactly what cloud companies have been telling consumers for a decade+. Right up to the point of commercials showing someone lose a device and saying “no worries, it’s all in the cloud!”, etc. We’ve been told for years that our data is safer in the cloud than it is on our own devices. That the c…

'The Cloud' is just someone else's computer. Nothing more nothing less

Ok, thanks.

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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How many more pleas like this will we see on HN? Or, hear from friends, colleagues, and relatives who have been locked out or denied access to an important service, either through no fault of their own or by an innocent action?

No warning.

No explanation other than "suspicious activity" or "violation of [vaguely worded] policy."

No human to call who can help troubleshoot, other than a tech-savvy friend or relative.

No recourse.

There needs to be a technology bill of rights, not just for people dealing with Google, Amazon, Apple, and Facebook, but also the myriad other technology operators which can disrupt our lives in an instant with some poorly programmed process or unanticipated edge case. Ultimately, the OP or my non-tech savvy employee or my mother should be able to get real answers and/or help from a human being when wronged by Google, a telco, or the local bank.

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Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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This is similar to leaving your personal property contents in a storage locker / unit / container that you don't own. Except it being digital, and given the storage isn't / never was being paid for, you're going to get that much less sympathy from the judicial system - entirely appropriately. No, there's no legislative solution to something like this. The content owner has no standing and it's difficult to find an ar…

It should be treated like an easement.

An easement is actually a very strong real property right. That term doesn't really apply in this context though. Here you just need a "right" to download your content before it is deleted.

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Was her Youtube account removed or whole Google account? I might need to rethink uploading my Factorio speedruns to YT...

As long as they are public, there is probably no problems. Though I'm not sure how they respond to low popularity content. Still, safest option might be to use unconnected account for it.

Public won't prevent the same bogus "cyber-bullying" auto-ban.

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Mea Culpa I'm in the industry. I knew we should have had backups. She is brilliant but not technical and while the backups would have been expensive and difficult due to size, I should have built multiple NAS and distributed them geographically and used Syncthing to keep them updated. To be clear we were legacy G-suite users and have converted to paying customers, so it was a free service while this happened, and is…

Back up everything in G-Suite outside of Google. If your Youtube account is connected to your G-Suite services they are at risk as well.

Geo dispersed NAS is probably the most cost effective long term but for now the important thing is getting data off Google services before you lose it forever. So take a look at other cloud providers in the short term. The more you interact with Google and ask questions the more likely it is they shut down more access.

If you have your domains registered with them move it somewhere else, preferably a dedicated registrar so you can at least re-host email and website.

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