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Re: Avoid the Apple App Store

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Post by checker659 »

mrtranscendence wrote: post #107

Unlike many people here, I'm not ideologically opposed to the idea of a walled-garden phone (though my preference would be to have the ability to sideload). But it kills me just how poorly Apple is behaving here. It's like they don't care at all about pissing off the developers that help make their platform attractive, and they'll belligerently go on not caring even as government agencies around the world gear up to…

> the developers that help make their platform attractive

This is where you're wrong about Apple. To Apple, it's Apple that makes the platform attractive. Developers are a dime a dozen to them. Especially indie / small scale devs.

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Post by chaosharmonic »

deadmutex wrote: post #251
pmarreck wrote: post #211

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Apple absolutely has zero incentive to support RCS as a fallback. Not only that, it's not only been inconsistently supported by Google despite existing for... decades, now?... but isn't even supported by all carriers! https://www.androidauthority.com/rcs-google-3090142/ > In a word, RCS is like SMS, but better. Except that it isn’t. Not every operator has enabled it yet. Not all phones support it. Not every implement…

> Apple absolutely has zero incentive to support RCS as a fallback Wouldn't their users gain better security and privacy with RCS (because of e2e support)? Or are you saying that an Apple user's security and privacy is not an incentive for Apple?

Not necessarily. Strictly speaking, the E2E part is being added via Google's network and isn't part of the spec. It's using the Signal protocol, which is just as open for Apple to use as it is for anyone else, but it doesn't inherently come with every RCS implementation.

Re: Avoid the Apple App Store

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Post by scarface74 »

curt15 wrote: post #254
scarface74 wrote: post #92

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So it’s the $100 a year fee that stops “talented developers” who would also have to have a phone that costs at least $400 and a computer that costs at least $700?

A computer can in principle be shared among several people. Unix is a multi-user system after all.

A dev account can be shared too…

Re: Avoid the Apple App Store

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Post by ksec »

FalconSensei wrote: post #207
viktorcode wrote: post #70

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That point is a good example of casual logical fallacy. Make a statement which is true or universally acceptable ("Surely you still agree that Apple should apply their rules consistently?") and then add incorrect conclusions: > In this case that would mean either allowing Wörd on the store, or purging all apps that resemble other apps from App Store. Starting with their own Apple Music and Translate apps Here's the e…

Just to add to that, seem like iPhone's market share is around 23% [0] And as you mentioned, people decided to buy Apple's phones, either despite the App Store, or maybe because of it. Although I don't like not being able to sideload apps (although I had only 1 on Android), and how they are way too prudish (it's annoying you can't configure reddit/imgur on the app to show NSFW content), I surely don't miss how the Pl…

Market share as in usage, not shipment.

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Post by viktorcode »

franciscop wrote: post #83
viktorcode wrote: post #56

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You are assuming that the original copyright owner is always against the clones. Sometimes they just don't care about it.

The original copyright owner has allegedly nothing to do here; this is Apple rejecting games based on Apple's copycats guidelines, not based on DMCAs as far as it's shown.

My experience begs to differ. Until the original copyright owner files the complain with Apple (as author was suggested to do when he mentioned other Wordle clones), Apple may do nothing. Especially, when copyright violation is not obvious.

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Post by pmarreck »

bastardoperator wrote: post #224
Steltek wrote: post #162

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Homebrew is not Apple so you're just reinforcing OP's point: you need to go to a 3rd party to get a CLI that's worth a damn. Nor is Homebrew supported by Apple which is totally outrageous, given that without it, you might as well buy an iPad for how useful MacOS is.

And yum, dnf, dpkg, apt, pacman, emerge, zypper are not Linux. Like brew they repackage software. Let's also not pretend that in the world of Linux I haven't had to add a 3rd party repo to get something working or look to community repos or even enable testing/unstable branches assuming I can get what I want working to work. There are trade offs everywhere. Considering it takes an entire second to add brew to a machi…

I actually wrote a pacman wrapper in Bash that makes it feel a lot more like Homebrew: https://github.com/pmarreck/pac

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Post by aabbcc1241 »

JoeOfTexas wrote: post #209

This happened to me when Hole.io became all the rage. I thought the game was a bit dry and slow, so I made my own variation and made it online multiplayer. Hole.io was not multiplayer, people were tricked by the bots to think it was though. Anyways, I submitted it to Google Play Store and it was doing great for awhile, then 2 weeks later it got suspended for being too similar to Hole.io. I made a bunch of changes and…

You may release the game as an webapp, with less restriction on distribution.

You don't need access to native APIs for the game anyway.

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Post by aabbcc1241 »

badsectoracula wrote: post #110
ben_w wrote: post #69

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Even inside a mobile browser’s sandbox, JavaScript gives me way more for free today than Metrowerks CodeWarrior Learning Edition gave me for ten weeks of pocket money back in the late 90s. I’m not a fan of Apple’s puritanism, but I really don’t think people are missing out in the way you do.

The problem with this is that while it gives you freedom as a developer, it takes a ton of freedom away from the user who has practically zero control over where and how to use your application or even which version of your application to use (some people may prefer to stick with an older version even if they lose support or whatever because they don't like later changes - this is something people often do with nativ…

A browser that downloads and displays the web pages, without automatic updates may be a good idea.

When a file is updated remotely, the browser may notice the user of update, but let the user to decide to display which version.

Re: Avoid the Apple App Store

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Post by whizzter »

dcow wrote: post #153
whizzter wrote: post #152

I think the main lesson here is to not to jump onto trains copying the latest trend. As for double-standards of later clones being allowed, it's probably just that this app got caught in the initial copycat-sweep with some rejection-notice visible for reviewers that will be re-used for later updates and unless fundamentally different it isn't going to pass. Later apps probably pass since they don't care adding new no…

No! That’s not the lesson. Swedish people cant play Wordle . Period. This contribution to the space brings an existing english-only experience to Swedish people. It’s by definition NOT A COPY. It’s a derivative work at best which the original Wordle also is. To write this off as a fad and say only English speakers get to experience Wordle is frankly racist.

I'm literally Swedish, most of us apart from old people knows English well enough to enjoy it.

Also the original Wordle is a web-app, there was nothing preventing OP to do the same instead of complaining about Apple policing their own walled garden so calling it a racist move is quiiiite a stretch!

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